Re: [WebDNA] Emailer & SMTP
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texte = Thank you for this info. I am going to pass it along to the IT guy who is= helping me solve this. I=20 have already informed him though, that since the site we are launching ne= eds to go live on 2/1=20 that if we cannot solve the problem then we'll just make IIS SMTP listen = to a folder in Globals,=20 then I will just write a sendmail function to do correctly-formatted [wri= tefile]s there, and we=20 should be good to go until we figure out the problem. -Dan On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:58:30 +1100 Stuart Tremain
wrote: > Dan >=20 > I had exactly the same problem and never solved it. I could drop the f= ailed files into the IIS=20 >SMTP dropbox and they would go but not via WebDNA in exactly the same m= anner as you describe. >=20 > I ended up sending mail to a different SMTP server and all has been pe= rfect for about 5 years. >=20 > I suspect it is an IIS problem or an IIS SMTP config problem because I = have Merak (Icewarp) on=20 >a second server with WebDNA running and have no problem sending mail fr= om that server. I have=20 >turned off IIS SMTP on it. >=20 > There is also another problem in sending mail on the windows platform = that no one has ever been=20 >able to solve for me, however I believe that it may be a bug in WebDNA = in the part that sends=20 >the mail to the SMTP server. I have been lead to believe this as I was = discussing it with a=20 > SMTP expert who told me that they had the same problem with some softw= are some years ago. The=20 >problem only occurs when you are sending a large number of emails at th= e same time such as a=20 >newsletter to 1,000 recipients. The logs record the email as being sent= once, the but the=20 >recipient may receive it upto 100 times. It is not always the same reci= pient, not every=20 >recipient, there is no pattern to the problem but after changing everyt= hing else over 2 years of=20 >trying many many different scenarios, the only thing that has not chang= ed is WebDNA. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 > On 29/01/2009, at 5:31 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >=20 >> I have to assume relaying is fine since I can drop the emails in two =20 >> different folders that IIS has or currently does listen to, and I =20 >> have also verified that IIS SMTP is allowing relaying from any =20 >> source that has been pre-authenticated... I really don't think this =20 >> is a WebDNA issue per se... I will revisit tomorrow. -Dan >> >> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:56 -0600 >> Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Dan Strong wrote: >>>> Not in a sandbox. >>>> -Dan >>> Hmm, not sure then. Like you said, other than >>> settings, and making sure your email server can >>> accept relaying from your machine, it should work >>> out of the box. >>> Do you have another external POP mail server that >>> you can test [sendmail...]'s with? >>> Donovan >>> --=20 >>> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3D= o=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do >>> DONOVAN D. BROOKE Pres., EUCA Design Center >>> WEB:> http://www.euca.us >>> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3D= o=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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Thank you for this info. I am going to pass it along to the IT guy who is= helping me solve this. I=20 have already informed him though, that since the site we are launching ne= eds to go live on 2/1=20 that if we cannot solve the problem then we'll just make IIS SMTP listen = to a folder in Globals,=20 then I will just write a sendmail function to do correctly-formatted [wri= tefile]s there, and we=20 should be good to go until we figure out the problem. -Dan On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:58:30 +1100 Stuart Tremain wrote: > Dan >=20 > I had exactly the same problem and never solved it. I could drop the f= ailed files into the IIS=20 >SMTP dropbox and they would go but not via WebDNA in exactly the same m= anner as you describe. >=20 > I ended up sending mail to a different SMTP server and all has been pe= rfect for about 5 years. >=20 > I suspect it is an IIS problem or an IIS SMTP config problem because I = have Merak (Icewarp) on=20 >a second server with WebDNA running and have no problem sending mail fr= om that server. I have=20 >turned off IIS SMTP on it. >=20 > There is also another problem in sending mail on the windows platform = that no one has ever been=20 >able to solve for me, however I believe that it may be a bug in WebDNA = in the part that sends=20 >the mail to the SMTP server. I have been lead to believe this as I was = discussing it with a=20 > SMTP expert who told me that they had the same problem with some softw= are some years ago. The=20 >problem only occurs when you are sending a large number of emails at th= e same time such as a=20 >newsletter to 1,000 recipients. The logs record the email as being sent= once, the but the=20 >recipient may receive it upto 100 times. It is not always the same reci= pient, not every=20 >recipient, there is no pattern to the problem but after changing everyt= hing else over 2 years of=20 >trying many many different scenarios, the only thing that has not chang= ed is WebDNA. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Stuart Tremain > IDFK Web Developments > AUSTRALIA > webdna@idfk.com.au >=20 > On 29/01/2009, at 5:31 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >=20 >> I have to assume relaying is fine since I can drop the emails in two =20 >> different folders that IIS has or currently does listen to, and I =20 >> have also verified that IIS SMTP is allowing relaying from any =20 >> source that has been pre-authenticated... I really don't think this =20 >> is a WebDNA issue per se... I will revisit tomorrow. -Dan >> >> >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:56 -0600 >> Donovan Brooke wrote: >>> Dan Strong wrote: >>>> Not in a sandbox. >>>> -Dan >>> Hmm, not sure then. Like you said, other than >>> settings, and making sure your email server can >>> accept relaying from your machine, it should work >>> out of the box. >>> Do you have another external POP mail server that >>> you can test [sendmail...]'s with? >>> Donovan >>> --=20 >>> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3D= o=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do >>> DONOVAN D. BROOKE Pres., EUCA Design Center >>> WEB:> http://www.euca.us >>> =3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3D= o=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do=3Do >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/ >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > old archives: http://dev.webdna.us/TalkListArchive/
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