Re: [WebDNA] Emailer & SMTP ** SOLVED **
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2009
It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = From my IT guy: "It=92s really a band-aid if you will. I let WebDNA attempt to send the m= ail and it fails and dumps=20 the email into the =93EmailProblem=94 folder. I then used a tool that com= es with the Windows Resource=20 kit called RoboCopy, which stands for Robust Copy. I wrote a one line tex= t file that utilizes=20 robocopy to copy the email from the =93EmailProblem=94 folder into my SMT= P =93Pickup=94 folder. The one=20 line text file is then given a name with a .bat extension which lets me r= un the command. I use a=20 switch on Robocopy =93/mov=94 which tells it to delete the source files a= fter it copies them. I also=20 use the =93/log:=94 switch which gives me some historical information. Vi= ola SMTP gets the mail and=20 sends it out appropriately at that point. I use windows schedule task to = run the task once a day=20 on a repetitive 5 minute schedule. The job runs for 23 hours and 55 minut= es, and then is kicked=20 off by the scheduler at the 24 hour mark to run for another 23 hours and = 55 minutes." -Dan On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:52:23 -0800 "Dan Strong"
wrote: > Thank you for this info. I am going to pass it along to the IT guy who = is helping me solve this.=20 >I have already informed him though, that since the site we are launching= needs to go live on 2/1=20 >that if we cannot solve the problem then we'll just make IIS SMTP listen= to a folder in Globals,=20 >then I will just write a sendmail function to do correctly-formatted [wr= itefile]s there, and we=20 >should be good to go until we figure out the problem. > -Dan >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:58:30 +1100 > Stuart Tremain wrote: >> Dan >>=20 >> I had exactly the same problem and never solved it. I could drop the = failed files into the IIS=20 >>SMTP dropbox and they would go but not via WebDNA in exactly the same = manner as you describe. >>=20 >> I ended up sending mail to a different SMTP server and all has been p= erfect for about 5 years. >>=20 >> I suspect it is an IIS problem or an IIS SMTP config problem because I= have Merak (Icewarp) on=20 >>a second server with WebDNA running and have no problem sending mail f= rom that server. I have=20 >>turned off IIS SMTP on it. >>=20 >> There is also another problem in sending mail on the windows platform = that no one has ever been=20 >>able to solve for me, however I believe that it may be a bug in WebDNA= in the part that sends=20 >>the mail to the SMTP server. I have been lead to believe this as I was= discussing it with a SMTP=20 >>expert who told me that they had the same problem with some software s= ome years ago. The=20 >>problem only occurs when you are sending a large number of emails at t= he same time such as a=20 >>newsletter to 1,000 recipients. The logs record the email as being sen= t once, the but the=20 >>recipient may receive it upto 100 times. It is not always the same rec= ipient, not every=20 >>recipient, there is no pattern to the problem but after changing every= thing else over 2 years of=20 >>trying many many different scenarios, the only thing that has not chan= ged is WebDNA. >>=20 >> Regards >>=20 >> Stuart Tremain >> IDFK Web Developments >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20 >> On 29/01/2009, at 5:31 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>=20 >>> I have to assume relaying is fine since I can drop the emails in two = =20 >>> different folders that IIS has or currently does listen to, and I =20 >>> have also verified that IIS SMTP is allowing relaying from any =20 >>> source that has been pre-authenticated... I really don't think this =20 >>> is a WebDNA issue per se... I will revisit tomorrow. -Dan >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:56 -0600 >>> Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Dan Strong wrote: >>>>> Not in a sandbox. >>>>> -Dan >>>> Hmm, not sure then. Like you said, other than >>>> settings, and making sure your email server can >>>> accept relaying from your machine, it should work >>>> out of the box. >>>> Do you have another external POP mail server that >>>> you can test [sendmail...]'s with? >>>> Donovan >>>> --=20
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From my IT guy: "It=92s really a band-aid if you will. I let WebDNA attempt to send the m= ail and it fails and dumps=20 the email into the =93EmailProblem=94 folder. I then used a tool that com= es with the Windows Resource=20 kit called RoboCopy, which stands for Robust Copy. I wrote a one line tex= t file that utilizes=20 robocopy to copy the email from the =93EmailProblem=94 folder into my SMT= P =93Pickup=94 folder. The one=20 line text file is then given a name with a .bat extension which lets me r= un the command. I use a=20 switch on Robocopy =93/mov=94 which tells it to delete the source files a= fter it copies them. I also=20 use the =93/log:=94 switch which gives me some historical information. Vi= ola SMTP gets the mail and=20 sends it out appropriately at that point. I use windows schedule task to = run the task once a day=20 on a repetitive 5 minute schedule. The job runs for 23 hours and 55 minut= es, and then is kicked=20 off by the scheduler at the 24 hour mark to run for another 23 hours and = 55 minutes." -Dan On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:52:23 -0800 "Dan Strong" wrote: > Thank you for this info. I am going to pass it along to the IT guy who = is helping me solve this.=20 >I have already informed him though, that since the site we are launching= needs to go live on 2/1=20 >that if we cannot solve the problem then we'll just make IIS SMTP listen= to a folder in Globals,=20 >then I will just write a sendmail function to do correctly-formatted [wr= itefile]s there, and we=20 >should be good to go until we figure out the problem. > -Dan >=20 >=20 > On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:58:30 +1100 > Stuart Tremain wrote: >> Dan >>=20 >> I had exactly the same problem and never solved it. I could drop the = failed files into the IIS=20 >>SMTP dropbox and they would go but not via WebDNA in exactly the same = manner as you describe. >>=20 >> I ended up sending mail to a different SMTP server and all has been p= erfect for about 5 years. >>=20 >> I suspect it is an IIS problem or an IIS SMTP config problem because I= have Merak (Icewarp) on=20 >>a second server with WebDNA running and have no problem sending mail f= rom that server. I have=20 >>turned off IIS SMTP on it. >>=20 >> There is also another problem in sending mail on the windows platform = that no one has ever been=20 >>able to solve for me, however I believe that it may be a bug in WebDNA= in the part that sends=20 >>the mail to the SMTP server. I have been lead to believe this as I was= discussing it with a SMTP=20 >>expert who told me that they had the same problem with some software s= ome years ago. The=20 >>problem only occurs when you are sending a large number of emails at t= he same time such as a=20 >>newsletter to 1,000 recipients. The logs record the email as being sen= t once, the but the=20 >>recipient may receive it upto 100 times. It is not always the same rec= ipient, not every=20 >>recipient, there is no pattern to the problem but after changing every= thing else over 2 years of=20 >>trying many many different scenarios, the only thing that has not chan= ged is WebDNA. >>=20 >> Regards >>=20 >> Stuart Tremain >> IDFK Web Developments >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20 >> On 29/01/2009, at 5:31 PM, Dan Strong wrote: >>=20 >>> I have to assume relaying is fine since I can drop the emails in two = =20 >>> different folders that IIS has or currently does listen to, and I =20 >>> have also verified that IIS SMTP is allowing relaying from any =20 >>> source that has been pre-authenticated... I really don't think this =20 >>> is a WebDNA issue per se... I will revisit tomorrow. -Dan >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:33:56 -0600 >>> Donovan Brooke wrote: >>>> Dan Strong wrote: >>>>> Not in a sandbox. >>>>> -Dan >>>> Hmm, not sure then. Like you said, other than >>>> settings, and making sure your email server can >>>> accept relaying from your machine, it should work >>>> out of the box. >>>> Do you have another external POP mail server that >>>> you can test [sendmail...]'s with? >>>> Donovan >>>> --=20
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