Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future

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2010


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texte = I agree with Dan whole-heartedly.. (and I own zero shares) .. Absolutely everything that anyone enjoys, anywhere/anytime, on this planet, was created with enthusiasm.. a spirit of creativity. Even clunky silly things become very real when backed by human enthusiasm. Appreciation and giving.. are the foundation for everything: what we will create, the atmosphere we want to live in... If, instead, we are critical of each other (even of our enemies, let alone our colleagues!), then we shoot ourselves in the foot... we cause to shrink the very things we want to grow. -G On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > Another angle is to basically follow Apple's lead. Macs are a "me > too" product given their low market share compared to PCs and are > really no different than PC when you remove all the window > dressing ... yeah yeah I know Macs are prettier and "more friendly" > and they made the iPhone and iTunes, etc, but regarding computers, > they run software just like PCs do, they help us get work done just > like PC's do and they crash just as often as PC's do. Thing is, > despite being 3 to 5 times more expensive than PC's, they managed to > capture the hearts and minds of the people and position themselves > as cool and innovative and friendly and they did this through years > of clever, focused marketing ("I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC") and they > also got themselves into the school systems -- get em hooked while > they're young. I think these are viable marketing options for > WebDNA. ...and I'm not trying to fan a mac/pc flame war -- I use both. > > Also, I hear a lot of people talking about what WSC needs to do to > thrive and compete, etc, but when you look at php, one of the > biggest things that php has going for it is an army of people > willing to work for free. Hard to compete against that, you know? So > maybe rather than pointing out the flaws and complaining about what > WSC needs to do, why not help to do it? If you think the docs are > crappy, then why not offer to help update them? Maybe we could have > a wiki and police each other? You get the idea. Full disclosure: I > am a license owner and a shareholder of WSC, and I am not speaking > on behalf of WSC, I am merely expressing my own individual opinion. > > Just sayin' > > P.S: I am not talking about anyone specifically who is complaining, > I am talking generally. > -Dan ------------ Govinda govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Jym Duane 2010)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Bob Minor 2010)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Govinda 2010)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Dan Strong 2010)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Bob Minor 2010)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Dan Strong 2010)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Brian Fries 2010)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Govinda 2010)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future ("Terry Wilson" 2010)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future ("JD Ready" 12:4)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future ("Terry Wilson" 2010)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  29. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  30. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Brian Fries 2010)
  31. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  32. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  33. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  34. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  35. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  36. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Kenneth Grome 2010)
  37. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Rob 2010)
  38. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  39. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  40. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Bob Minor 2010)
  41. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  42. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (Donovan Brooke 2010)
  43. Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
  44. [WebDNA] WebDNA future (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2010)
I agree with Dan whole-heartedly.. (and I own zero shares) .. Absolutely everything that anyone enjoys, anywhere/anytime, on this planet, was created with enthusiasm.. a spirit of creativity. Even clunky silly things become very real when backed by human enthusiasm. Appreciation and giving.. are the foundation for everything: what we will create, the atmosphere we want to live in... If, instead, we are critical of each other (even of our enemies, let alone our colleagues!), then we shoot ourselves in the foot... we cause to shrink the very things we want to grow. -G On Jan 14, 2010, at 12:56 PM, Dan Strong wrote: > Another angle is to basically follow Apple's lead. Macs are a "me > too" product given their low market share compared to PCs and are > really no different than PC when you remove all the window > dressing ... yeah yeah I know Macs are prettier and "more friendly" > and they made the iPhone and iTunes, etc, but regarding computers, > they run software just like PCs do, they help us get work done just > like PC's do and they crash just as often as PC's do. Thing is, > despite being 3 to 5 times more expensive than PC's, they managed to > capture the hearts and minds of the people and position themselves > as cool and innovative and friendly and they did this through years > of clever, focused marketing ("I'm a Mac, and I'm a PC") and they > also got themselves into the school systems -- get em hooked while > they're young. I think these are viable marketing options for > WebDNA. ...and I'm not trying to fan a mac/pc flame war -- I use both. > > Also, I hear a lot of people talking about what WSC needs to do to > thrive and compete, etc, but when you look at php, one of the > biggest things that php has going for it is an army of people > willing to work for free. Hard to compete against that, you know? So > maybe rather than pointing out the flaws and complaining about what > WSC needs to do, why not help to do it? If you think the docs are > crappy, then why not offer to help update them? Maybe we could have > a wiki and police each other? You get the idea. Full disclosure: I > am a license owner and a shareholder of WSC, and I am not speaking > on behalf of WSC, I am merely expressing my own individual opinion. > > Just sayin' > > P.S: I am not talking about anyone specifically who is complaining, > I am talking generally. > -Dan ------------ Govinda govinda.webdnatalk@gmail.com Govinda

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