Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?

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2011


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texte = I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud server at = linode.com... could it be possible your website (and webdna) are = automatically replicated among several servers? or is it simple regular = VPS? You can replace libssl.so.1.0.0 with a libssl.so.0.9.8 The easiest would probably be to use a CentOS 5.6, which is rock solid = and fast with smaller footprint than Ubuntu and is probably easier to = maintain. If you go this way, i will send you a linux-glibcv2-64 version = (Ubuntu-Debian need glibcv3 while CentOS-RF-Fedora etc... need glibcv2) Both fcgid and fast_cgi work fine - chris On Nov 4, 2011, at 0:45, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: > I had posted that link several hours earlier today. =20 >=20 > I have already rebuilt the server again trying another distro. I've = found that newer distros come with libssl.so.1.0.0, while this WebDNA = depends on libssl.so.0.9.8 > what's the workaround for this? Or do I need a different fcgi? >=20 > and exactly which apache module does this work better with, fcgid or = fast_cgi? >=20 >=20 > On Nov 3, 2011, at 10:32 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> Aaron, as requested in a previous email, is there an URL where we = could test the problem you mention and post the test code here? and can = you upload the stress2.dna file i provided? i just would like to see = what you describe and be able to check if it is code related, = configuration related or a real problem with your WebDNA build (WebDNA 7 = linux-glibcv3-64-libmysql16 is the version Ken is running on his Debian = 6 box without trouble, as far as i know) >>=20 >> - chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 0:17, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: >>=20 >>>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>>> and over again, too. >>>>=20 >>>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>>> you might find that it "just works". >>>=20 >>> If I can't use the server of my choice, why say I can? If I can't, = why not say that I can't? >>> This has not been an over and over again install. I rebuilt my VPS = once in the most plain vanilla configuration possible to find the error. = I also followed both Chris and Donavan's instructions to the "T", = neither of which worked because they were not specific to my = configuration or OS/webserver version. I've submitted my exact = configuration on here twice. And these were the ONLY configurations = I've made. So far, no one has pointed out any major errors in this = configuration. In all regards, I got WebDNA 7 to work fairly quickly, = but with a quirk as I discovered. I think it sucks for the whole = community if you take the attitude, "I don't know what you're doing, but = it must be wrong. And sorry I can't help. You should just do it my = way". I don't have your step by step instructions. If I did, I would = have certainly tried it. If you're going to promote WebDNA 7 to work = with a variety of configurations, wouldn't it be nice to actually = provide support for those? Or at least acknowledge that there might = possibly be a bug with a given configuration and .fcgi version. =20 >>>=20 >>>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>>=20 >>> Hmm=85root access? That's been pretty indispensable for me. Yeah, = many WebDNA hosts are easily over that for not getting very much. Not = very appealing for clients either when you transfer that cost onto them. = Setting up WebDNA has been the ONLY headache I've EVER had managing = servers. I've managed everything else just fine. =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>=20 >>>>> I haven't gotten any real help. >>>>=20 >>>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>>> and over again, too. >>>>=20 >>>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>>> you might find that it "just works". >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> But you know the real issue is that I am a developer, I >>>>> don't want to be a server administration. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>>>=20 >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Stuart Tremain 2011)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Stuart Tremain 2011)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (frank@cwolfe.com 2011)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Matthew Bohne 2011)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Govinda 2011)
  21. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (Kenneth Grome 2011)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2011)
  27. [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here? (aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com 2011)
I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a cloud server at = linode.com... could it be possible your website (and webdna) are = automatically replicated among several servers? or is it simple regular = VPS? You can replace libssl.so.1.0.0 with a libssl.so.0.9.8 The easiest would probably be to use a CentOS 5.6, which is rock solid = and fast with smaller footprint than Ubuntu and is probably easier to = maintain. If you go this way, i will send you a linux-glibcv2-64 version = (Ubuntu-Debian need glibcv3 while CentOS-RF-Fedora etc... need glibcv2) Both fcgid and fast_cgi work fine - chris On Nov 4, 2011, at 0:45, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: > I had posted that link several hours earlier today. =20 >=20 > I have already rebuilt the server again trying another distro. I've = found that newer distros come with libssl.so.1.0.0, while this WebDNA = depends on libssl.so.0.9.8 > what's the workaround for this? Or do I need a different fcgi? >=20 > and exactly which apache module does this work better with, fcgid or = fast_cgi? >=20 >=20 > On Nov 3, 2011, at 10:32 PM, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 >> Aaron, as requested in a previous email, is there an URL where we = could test the problem you mention and post the test code here? and can = you upload the stress2.dna file i provided? i just would like to see = what you describe and be able to check if it is code related, = configuration related or a real problem with your WebDNA build (WebDNA 7 = linux-glibcv3-64-libmysql16 is the version Ken is running on his Debian = 6 box without trouble, as far as i know) >>=20 >> - chris >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 0:17, aaronmichaelmusic@gmail.com wrote: >>=20 >>>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>>> and over again, too. >>>>=20 >>>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>>> you might find that it "just works". >>>=20 >>> If I can't use the server of my choice, why say I can? If I can't, = why not say that I can't? >>> This has not been an over and over again install. I rebuilt my VPS = once in the most plain vanilla configuration possible to find the error. = I also followed both Chris and Donavan's instructions to the "T", = neither of which worked because they were not specific to my = configuration or OS/webserver version. I've submitted my exact = configuration on here twice. And these were the ONLY configurations = I've made. So far, no one has pointed out any major errors in this = configuration. In all regards, I got WebDNA 7 to work fairly quickly, = but with a quirk as I discovered. I think it sucks for the whole = community if you take the attitude, "I don't know what you're doing, but = it must be wrong. And sorry I can't help. You should just do it my = way". I don't have your step by step instructions. If I did, I would = have certainly tried it. If you're going to promote WebDNA 7 to work = with a variety of configurations, wouldn't it be nice to actually = provide support for those? Or at least acknowledge that there might = possibly be a bug with a given configuration and .fcgi version. =20 >>>=20 >>>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>>=20 >>> Hmm=85root access? That's been pretty indispensable for me. Yeah, = many WebDNA hosts are easily over that for not getting very much. Not = very appealing for clients either when you transfer that cost onto them. = Setting up WebDNA has been the ONLY headache I've EVER had managing = servers. I've managed everything else just fine. =20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:03 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: >>>=20 >>>>> I haven't gotten any real help. >>>>=20 >>>> You seem to be repeating the same install over and over=20 >>>> again, using the same OS and web server ... which probably=20 >>>> means you're making the same install or config errors over=20 >>>> and over again, too. >>>>=20 >>>> If you install v7 on a Debian 5/6 server running lighttpd,=20 >>>> according to the step-by-step instructions I posted in this=20 >>>> list more than a year ago (and then updated more recently)=20 >>>> you might find that it "just works". >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> But you know the real issue is that I am a developer, I >>>>> don't want to be a server administration. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> So stop wasting your time and get back to work. If you=20 >>>> don't want to manage a server why are you screwing around=20 >>>> with one? Just hire a host! They don't charge more than=20 >>>> $20 or $30 a month, do they? =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Even if they charge $100 a month that's less than $5 per=20 >>>> work day for a 20-day work month. Big deal. Just pay the=20 >>>> $5 per day, eliminate the server hassles you don't know how=20 >>>> to fix, and get back to your development work already. >>>>=20 >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Kenneth Grome >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>>> the mailing list . >>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>>=20 >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >>> the mailing list . >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us christophe.billiottet@webdna.us

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