Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
This WebDNA talk-list message is from 2011
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texte = > I think Ken Grome hosts ... Actually I do not, because I think it takes hundreds of hosting customers to make the effort worthwhile at the low prices people expect to pay for hosting these days ... and besides, I'm more into webdna development than hosting. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome > I think part of your frustration is and will continue to > be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, don't > set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a server, > that is all you end up doing (often to the detriment of > development). > > The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone > else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from > some of the same people, and they are very right. Server > problems become very close personal problems. Your > customers' sites depend on your server, and your server > depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it > would be if you had someone else to manage the server > while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single person > trying to balance development, marketing, and server > administration is a great recipe for severe health > problems, outright failure, or both. > > I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful > service. I have had php hosting through GoDaddy for > years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, and uptime are > second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts, as do several > others on the distro. > > Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, > if you take anything away from this, take this: If you > don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting > server. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM,
wrote: > > Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and > > I certainly hit a high point last night, but this has > > been a strange few days of things just breaking down > > and falling apart around me (friends dying, > > relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so > > on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and just > > lost my patience. > > > > Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 > > working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) > > just fine with the same configuration I was using. I > > was not able to reproduce the funky database behavior. > > > > So I do believe that there is a real problem with this > > build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. > > There were no special configurations with Linode > > either as far as automatic replicating and so forth. > > The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. > > And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, it > > was a bug in the behavior of it. > > > > I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual hosts > > in this environment is intuitive and comfortable for > > me. Next time around, I'll give CentOS and Lighhtpd a > > go. > > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> Chris, > >> > >> It seems his db's are being replicated in different > >> states. > >> > >> Either that or he is not telling us everything about > >> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make > >> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working > >> on his system. > >> > >> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- > >> and continues to work until we help him figure out > >> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. > >> > >> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP > >> access to the server root so we could run our own > >> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we > >> could actually determine the cause of the problem, > >> rather than trying to guess at it. > >> > >> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out > >> important information about his configuration. > >> You're the one who > >> > >> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: > >>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a > >>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible > >>> your website (and webdna) are automatically > >>> replicated among several servers? > >> > >> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. > >> This could easily be the problem. It explains > >> everything he's been complaining about. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Kenneth Grome > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> --- This message is sent to you because you are > >> subscribed to the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This message is sent to you because you are > > subscribed to the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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> I think Ken Grome hosts ... Actually I do not, because I think it takes hundreds of hosting customers to make the effort worthwhile at the low prices people expect to pay for hosting these days ... and besides, I'm more into webdna development than hosting. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome > I think part of your frustration is and will continue to > be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, don't > set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a server, > that is all you end up doing (often to the detriment of > development). > > The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone > else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from > some of the same people, and they are very right. Server > problems become very close personal problems. Your > customers' sites depend on your server, and your server > depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... and it > would be if you had someone else to manage the server > while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single person > trying to balance development, marketing, and server > administration is a great recipe for severe health > problems, outright failure, or both. > > I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides wonderful > service. I have had php hosting through GoDaddy for > years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, and uptime are > second to none. I think Ken Grome hosts, as do several > others on the distro. > > Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... But, > if you take anything away from this, take this: If you > don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a hosting > server. > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, wrote: > > Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, and > > I certainly hit a high point last night, but this has > > been a strange few days of things just breaking down > > and falling apart around me (friends dying, > > relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so > > on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and just > > lost my patience. > > > > Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 > > working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) > > just fine with the same configuration I was using. I > > was not able to reproduce the funky database behavior. > > > > So I do believe that there is a real problem with this > > build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. > > There were no special configurations with Linode > > either as far as automatic replicating and so forth. > > The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. > > And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, it > > was a bug in the behavior of it. > > > > I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual hosts > > in this environment is intuitive and comfortable for > > me. Next time around, I'll give CentOS and Lighhtpd a > > go. > > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >> Chris, > >> > >> It seems his db's are being replicated in different > >> states. > >> > >> Either that or he is not telling us everything about > >> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make > >> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working > >> on his system. > >> > >> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- > >> and continues to work until we help him figure out > >> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. > >> > >> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP > >> access to the server root so we could run our own > >> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we > >> could actually determine the cause of the problem, > >> rather than trying to guess at it. > >> > >> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out > >> important information about his configuration. > >> You're the one who > >> > >> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: > >>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a > >>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible > >>> your website (and webdna) are automatically > >>> replicated among several servers? > >> > >> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. > >> This could easily be the problem. It explains > >> everything he's been complaining about. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Kenneth Grome > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> --- This message is sent to you because you are > >> subscribed to the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This message is sent to you because you are > > subscribed to the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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