Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
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texte = You'll only have to install a new serial number for each domain you want to run in accelerated mode after duplicating the master for a new client. Most hosts can install an image from other hosts too -- a similar process that's not quite as fast but still plenty fast enough. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome > As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS > server with WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy > of the file in the Rackspace cloud. > > To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 > minute to take the "master" server image and put it into > production. > > Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but > it looks like a great way to setup sites for clients now > that v7 is available. > > I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the > moment I am only spending about $10 a month with them > while I explore these ideas. > > On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote: > > I think part of your frustration is and will continue > > to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, > > don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a > > server, that is all you end up doing (often to the > > detriment of development). > > > > The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone > > else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from > > some of the same people, and they are very right. > > Server problems become very close personal problems. > > Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your > > server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... > > and it would be if you had someone else to manage the > > server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single > > person trying to balance development, marketing, and > > server administration is a great recipe for severe > > health problems, outright failure, or both. > > > > I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides > > wonderful service. I have had php hosting through > > GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, > > and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome > > hosts, as do several others on the distro. > > > > Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... > > But, if you take anything away from this, take this: > > If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a > > hosting server. > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM,
wrote: > >> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, > >> and I certainly hit a high point last night, but this > >> has been a strange few days of things just breaking > >> down and falling apart around me (friends dying, > >> relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so > >> on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and > >> just lost my patience. > >> > >> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 > >> working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) > >> just fine with the same configuration I was using. I > >> was not able to reproduce the funky database > >> behavior. > >> > >> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this > >> build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. > >> There were no special configurations with Linode > >> either as far as automatic replicating and so forth. > >> The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. > >> And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, > >> it was a bug in the behavior of it. > >> > >> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual > >> hosts in this environment is intuitive and > >> comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll give > >> CentOS and Lighhtpd a go. > >> > >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >>> Chris, > >>> > >>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different > >>> states. > >>> > >>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about > >>> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make > >>> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working > >>> on his system. > >>> > >>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- > >>> and continues to work until we help him figure out > >>> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. > >>> > >>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP > >>> access to the server root so we could run our own > >>> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we > >>> could actually determine the cause of the problem, > >>> rather than trying to guess at it. > >>> > >>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out > >>> important information about his configuration. > >>> You're the one who > >>> > >>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: > >>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a > >>>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible > >>>> your website (and webdna) are automatically > >>>> replicated among several servers? > >>> > >>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. > >>> This could easily be the problem. It explains > >>> everything he's been complaining about. > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Kenneth Grome > >>> ----------------------------------------------------- > >>> ---- This message is sent to you because you are > >>> subscribed to the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> --- This message is sent to you because you are > >> subscribed to the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This message is sent to you because you are > > subscribed to the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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You'll only have to install a new serial number for each domain you want to run in accelerated mode after duplicating the master for a new client. Most hosts can install an image from other hosts too -- a similar process that's not quite as fast but still plenty fast enough. Sincerely, Kenneth Grome > As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS > server with WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy > of the file in the Rackspace cloud. > > To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1 > minute to take the "master" server image and put it into > production. > > Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but > it looks like a great way to setup sites for clients now > that v7 is available. > > I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the > moment I am only spending about $10 a month with them > while I explore these ideas. > > On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote: > > I think part of your frustration is and will continue > > to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin, > > don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a > > server, that is all you end up doing (often to the > > detriment of development). > > > > The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone > > else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from > > some of the same people, and they are very right. > > Server problems become very close personal problems. > > Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your > > server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea... > > and it would be if you had someone else to manage the > > server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single > > person trying to balance development, marketing, and > > server administration is a great recipe for severe > > health problems, outright failure, or both. > > > > I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides > > wonderful service. I have had php hosting through > > GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance, > > and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome > > hosts, as do several others on the distro. > > > > Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed... > > But, if you take anything away from this, take this: > > If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a > > hosting server. > > > > On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, wrote: > >> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy, > >> and I certainly hit a high point last night, but this > >> has been a strange few days of things just breaking > >> down and falling apart around me (friends dying, > >> relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so > >> on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and > >> just lost my patience. > >> > >> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10 > >> working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file) > >> just fine with the same configuration I was using. I > >> was not able to reproduce the funky database > >> behavior. > >> > >> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this > >> build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error. > >> There were no special configurations with Linode > >> either as far as automatic replicating and so forth. > >> The configuration I provided was completely verbatim. > >> And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA, > >> it was a bug in the behavior of it. > >> > >> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual > >> hosts in this environment is intuitive and > >> comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll give > >> CentOS and Lighhtpd a go. > >> > >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > >>> Chris, > >>> > >>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different > >>> states. > >>> > >>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about > >>> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make > >>> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working > >>> on his system. > >>> > >>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -- > >>> and continues to work until we help him figure out > >>> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves. > >>> > >>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP > >>> access to the server root so we could run our own > >>> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we > >>> could actually determine the cause of the problem, > >>> rather than trying to guess at it. > >>> > >>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out > >>> important information about his configuration. > >>> You're the one who > >>> > >>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about it: > >>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a > >>>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible > >>>> your website (and webdna) are automatically > >>>> replicated among several servers? > >>> > >>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here. > >>> This could easily be the problem. It explains > >>> everything he's been complaining about. > >>> > >>> Sincerely, > >>> Kenneth Grome > >>> ----------------------------------------------------- > >>> ---- This message is sent to you because you are > >>> subscribed to the mailing list . > >>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------ > >> --- This message is sent to you because you are > >> subscribed to the mailing list . > >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > -- This message is sent to you because you are > > subscribed to the mailing list . > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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