Re: [WebDNA] Seriously what is wrong here?
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texte = Yes, quick and simple.Would be great if WebDNA community was able to make images available for =a few different OS to make install easy for others too.On 07/11/2011, at 10:53 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:> You'll only have to install a new serial number for each=20> domain you want to run in accelerated mode after duplicating=20> the master for a new client.>=20> Most hosts can install an image from other hosts too -- a=20> similar process that's not quite as fast but still plenty=20> fast enough.>=20> Sincerely,> Kenneth Grome>=20>=20>=20>> As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS>> server with WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy>> of the file in the Rackspace cloud.>>=20>> To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1>> minute to take the "master" server image and put it into>> production.>>=20>> Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but>> it looks like a great way to setup sites for clients now>> that v7 is available.>>=20>> I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the>> moment I am only spending about $10 a month with them>> while I explore these ideas.>>=20>> On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote:>>> I think part of your frustration is and will continue>>> to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin,>>> don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a>>> server, that is all you end up doing (often to the>>> detriment of development).>>>=20>>> The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone>>> else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from>>> some of the same people, and they are very right.>>> Server problems become very close personal problems.>>> Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your>>> server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea...>>> and it would be if you had someone else to manage the>>> server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single>>> person trying to balance development, marketing, and>>> server administration is a great recipe for severe>>> health problems, outright failure, or both.>>>=20>>> I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides>>> wonderful service. I have had php hosting through>>> GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance,>>> and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome>>> hosts, as do several others on the distro.>>>=20>>> Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed...>>> But, if you take anything away from this, take this:>>> If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a>>> hosting server.>>>=20>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, =20>
wrote:>>>> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy,>>>> and I certainly hit a high point last night, but this>>>> has been a strange few days of things just breaking>>>> down and falling apart around me (friends dying,>>>> relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so>>>> on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and>>>> just lost my patience.>>>>=20>>>> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10>>>> working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file)>>>> just fine with the same configuration I was using. I>>>> was not able to reproduce the funky database>>>> behavior.>>>>=20>>>> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this>>>> build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error.=20>>>> There were no special configurations with Linode>>>> either as far as automatic replicating and so forth.=20>>>> The configuration I provided was completely verbatim.>>>> And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA,>>>> it was a bug in the behavior of it.>>>>=20>>>> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual>>>> hosts in this environment is intuitive and>>>> comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll give>>>> CentOS and Lighhtpd a go.>>>>=20>>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>> Chris,>>>>>=20>>>>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different>>>>> states.>>>>>=20>>>>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about>>>>> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make>>>>> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working>>>>> on his system.>>>>>=20>>>>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -->>>>> and continues to work until we help him figure out>>>>> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves.>>>>>=20>>>>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP>>>>> access to the server root so we could run our own>>>>> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we>>>>> could actually determine the cause of the problem,>>>>> rather than trying to guess at it.>>>>>=20>>>>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out>>>>> important information about his configuration.=20>>>>> You're the one who>>>>>=20>>>>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about=20> it:>>>>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a>>>>>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible>>>>>> your website (and webdna) are automatically=20>>>>>> replicated among several servers?>>>>>=20>>>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here.=20>>>>> This could easily be the problem. It explains>>>>> everything he's been complaining about.>>>>>=20>>>>> Sincerely,>>>>> Kenneth Grome>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------->>>>> ---- This message is sent to you because you are>>>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>>=20>>>> ------------------------------------------------------>>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are>>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>> ------------------------------------------------------->>> -- This message is sent to you because you are>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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Yes, quick and simple.Would be great if WebDNA community was able to make images available for =a few different OS to make install easy for others too.On 07/11/2011, at 10:53 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:> You'll only have to install a new serial number for each=20> domain you want to run in accelerated mode after duplicating=20> the master for a new client.>=20> Most hosts can install an image from other hosts too -- a=20> similar process that's not quite as fast but still plenty=20> fast enough.>=20> Sincerely,> Kenneth Grome>=20>=20>=20>> As a trial I started using Rackspace, I set up a CentOS>> server with WebDNA installed on it and then made a copy>> of the file in the Rackspace cloud.>>=20>> To set up a new site for a new client it takes about 1>> minute to take the "master" server image and put it into>> production.>>=20>> Admittedly I have not put this process into practice but>> it looks like a great way to setup sites for clients now>> that v7 is available.>>=20>> I know that Rackspace is not the cheapest but at the>> moment I am only spending about $10 a month with them>> while I explore these ideas.>>=20>> On 05/11/2011, at 3:41 AM, Matthew Bohne wrote:>>> I think part of your frustration is and will continue>>> to be this: If you don't want to be a server admin,>>> don't set up a hosting server. As soon as you set up a>>> server, that is all you end up doing (often to the>>> detriment of development).>>>=20>>> The best advice in this thread so far is: let someone>>> else do your hosting. I was given the same advice from>>> some of the same people, and they are very right.>>> Server problems become very close personal problems.>>> Your customers' sites depend on your server, and your>>> server depends on you. It sounds like a great idea...>>> and it would be if you had someone else to manage the>>> server while you develop, or vice-versa. But a single>>> person trying to balance development, marketing, and>>> server administration is a great recipe for severe>>> health problems, outright failure, or both.>>>=20>>> I can say from experience that Zarcrom provides>>> wonderful service. I have had php hosting through>>> GoDaddy for years, and Zarcrom's speed, performance,>>> and uptime are second to none. I think Ken Grome>>> hosts, as do several others on the distro.>>>=20>>> Anyway, glad to hear that your problems are fixed...>>> But, if you take anything away from this, take this:>>> If you don't want to be a server admin, don't set up a>>> hosting server.>>>=20>>> On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 10:55 AM, =20> wrote:>>>> Hey guys. Sorry, I hate to be that frustrated guy,>>>> and I certainly hit a high point last night, but this>>>> has been a strange few days of things just breaking>>>> down and falling apart around me (friends dying,>>>> relationships ending, vehicles breaking down, and so>>>> on). At any rate, I still really like WebDNA and>>>> just lost my patience.>>>>=20>>>> Last night though, I did get a setup with Ubuntu 11.10>>>> working with WebDNA7 (replacing the libssl.so file)>>>> just fine with the same configuration I was using. I>>>> was not able to reproduce the funky database>>>> behavior.>>>>=20>>>> So I do believe that there is a real problem with this>>>> build on Ubuntu 10.4, and was not due to user error.=20>>>> There were no special configurations with Linode>>>> either as far as automatic replicating and so forth.=20>>>> The configuration I provided was completely verbatim.>>>> And again, the problem wasn't "installing" WebDNA,>>>> it was a bug in the behavior of it.>>>>=20>>>> I like using Ubuntu + Apache. Setting up virtual>>>> hosts in this environment is intuitive and>>>> comfortable for me. Next time around, I'll give>>>> CentOS and Lighhtpd a go.>>>>=20>>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:55 AM, Kenneth Grome wrote:>>>>> Chris,>>>>>=20>>>>> It seems his db's are being replicated in different>>>>> states.>>>>>=20>>>>> Either that or he is not telling us everything about>>>>> his testing and observations, which wouldn't make>>>>> sense if he wants us to help him get webdna working>>>>> on his system.>>>>>=20>>>>> Without a link to a test page that actually works -->>>>> and continues to work until we help him figure out>>>>> what's wrong -- we cannot do any testing ourselves.>>>>>=20>>>>> Even better, he could offer to give one of us FTP>>>>> access to the server root so we could run our own>>>>> tests -- in ways we know are correct. Maybe then we>>>>> could actually determine the cause of the problem,>>>>> rather than trying to guess at it.>>>>>=20>>>>> Having said this, it seems he may be leaving out>>>>> important information about his configuration.=20>>>>> You're the one who>>>>>=20>>>>> noted this, I don't remember him saying anything about=20> it:>>>>>> I just found peru.kazwebworks.com is hosted on a>>>>>> cloud server at linode.com... could it be possible>>>>>> your website (and webdna) are automatically=20>>>>>> replicated among several servers?>>>>>=20>>>>> I think you may have hit the nail on the head here.=20>>>>> This could easily be the problem. It explains>>>>> everything he's been complaining about.>>>>>=20>>>>> Sincerely,>>>>> Kenneth Grome>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------->>>>> ---- This message is sent to you because you are>>>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>>=20>>>> ------------------------------------------------------>>>> --- This message is sent to you because you are>>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>>=20>>> ------------------------------------------------------->>> -- This message is sent to you because you are>>> subscribed to the mailing list .>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us>>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------->> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>> the mailing list .>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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