> I tend to disagree... most all us running webdna use our own
> servers ...
I think it makes sense to distinguish between "I own my own
hardware" and "I rent/lease my hardware".=C2=A0 I think most= WebDNA
users rent/lease their server hardware these days.=C2=A0 Maybe you
disagree, and maybe you're right.=C2=A0 I could be wrong, but:
Given the minuscule cost of a commodity VPS, it makes no sense
(for me anyways) to deal with any hardware or network access
issues when a professional hosting company will deal with all this
for me -- and charge me a pittance for a VPS that I control
exclusively and therefore personally setup and configure with my
choice of OS and all other software, WebDNA included.
> ... because most hosting companies NEVER heard of webdna and
> the one that does wants a fortune per domain.
When you're managing the server software yourself like I do, it
doesn't matter if a hosting company knows anything about WebDNA
because they have nothing to do with it!=C2=A0 So I couldn't care less<=br>if most hosting companies have ever heard of WebDNA -- because I
can still run it on their hardware without a problem.
This allows me to AVOID investing in hardware that will become
obsolete in a few years, dealing with colocation services, setting
up a physical server in my home/office, etc., etc.
Believe me, I went through the stage of running my own server
hardware while I was living in Hawaii a very long time ago, and it
was never a simple or pleasant thing to do.=C2=A0 There was always
something I had to attend to.=C2=A0 Something always needed tweaking or
fixing or replacing.=C2=A0 or the colo host was having issues or needed
to move to a new building or whatever.=C2=A0 It was not fun at all --
just a time-consuming PITA now that I look back on it.
> Also, seems like post to the list are screened and sometimes
> deleted.
You are the first person I can recall who has suggested such a
thing.=C2=A0 Do you really think someone from WSC has the time and/or
the desire to sit there and read every post before approving it
for distribution to the list subscribers?
> And it seems odd the first time I see a post it already has 4
> answers and or replies...?
I have seen occasions where an original post does not appear
before the replies.=C2=A0 Sometimes it gets shuffled off to my SPAM
box, but other times it just seems to happen that messages do not
appear in chronological order.
> And Apache, Postfix and WebDNA is pretty much the same on any
> unix based machine!
How did you come to this conclusion?=C2=A0 Did you read something th=at
made you believe this?=C2=A0 Or do you actually have some experience
configuring different varieties of unix-based servers?
> Chris seemed willing to help Lawrence and was looking for a
> "little" help migrating over to the new server.
Chris thought it might be a WebDNA issue, that's why he was
apparently willing to help track down the suspected "WebDNA bug".=
But it was not a bug, it was a simple Apache configuration issue.
Anyways, since we're on the topic you should know that Chris/WSC
offer paid technical support on a case-by-case basis now.
Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
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> I tend to disagree... most all us running webdna use our own
> servers ...
I think it makes sense to distinguish between "I own my own
hardware" and "I rent/lease my hardware".=C2=A0 I think most= WebDNA
users rent/lease their server hardware these days.=C2=A0 Maybe you
disagree, and maybe you're right.=C2=A0 I could be wrong, but:
Given the minuscule cost of a commodity VPS, it makes no sense
(for me anyways) to deal with any hardware or network access
issues when a professional hosting company will deal with all this
for me -- and charge me a pittance for a VPS that I control
exclusively and therefore personally setup and configure with my
choice of OS and all other software, WebDNA included.
> ... because most hosting companies NEVER heard of webdna and
> the one that does wants a fortune per domain.
When you're managing the server software yourself like I do, it
doesn't matter if a hosting company knows anything about WebDNA
because they have nothing to do with it!=C2=A0 So I couldn't care less<=br>if most hosting companies have ever heard of WebDNA -- because I
can still run it on their hardware without a problem.
This allows me to AVOID investing in hardware that will become
obsolete in a few years, dealing with colocation services, setting
up a physical server in my home/office, etc., etc.
Believe me, I went through the stage of running my own server
hardware while I was living in Hawaii a very long time ago, and it
was never a simple or pleasant thing to do.=C2=A0 There was always
something I had to attend to.=C2=A0 Something always needed tweaking or
fixing or replacing.=C2=A0 or the colo host was having issues or needed
to move to a new building or whatever.=C2=A0 It was not fun at all --
just a time-consuming PITA now that I look back on it.
> Also, seems like post to the list are screened and sometimes
> deleted.
You are the first person I can recall who has suggested such a
thing.=C2=A0 Do you really think someone from WSC has the time and/or
the desire to sit there and read every post before approving it
for distribution to the list subscribers?
> And it seems odd the first time I see a post it already has 4
> answers and or replies...?
I have seen occasions where an original post does not appear
before the replies.=C2=A0 Sometimes it gets shuffled off to my SPAM
box, but other times it just seems to happen that messages do not
appear in chronological order.
> And Apache, Postfix and WebDNA is pretty much the same on any
> unix based machine!
How did you come to this conclusion?=C2=A0 Did you read something th=at
made you believe this?=C2=A0 Or do you actually have some experience
configuring different varieties of unix-based servers?
> Chris seemed willing to help Lawrence and was looking for a
> "little" help migrating over to the new server.
Chris thought it might be a WebDNA issue, that's why he was
apparently willing to help track down the suspected "WebDNA bug".=
But it was not a bug, it was a simple Apache configuration issue.
Anyways, since we're on the topic you should know that Chris/WSC
offer paid technical support on a case-by-case basis now.
Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration----------------------------=-----------------------------
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