Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan

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texte = 1520 --f403043730c01418a40560d1ccd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm getting the hint! Spent 2-3 days trying to get postfix working on the newer machine! HUH El Capitan will NOT let me change permissions on the "System" folder HUH tried sudo chown _postfix /private/var/spool/postfix/* and few other combinations and they just come back! So, I said OK lets try to upgrade to High Sierra, and after download, it tells me it can't install onto my Pcie RAID!!!! HUH Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# postfix start postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/aliases postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./access postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./access~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./aliases postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./aliases~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./bounce.cf.default postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./canonical postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./canonical~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./custom_header_checks postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./generic postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./LICENSE postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.cf postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.cf copy postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.cf~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.orig.cf postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./makedefs.out postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ master.cf postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf.default postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ master.cf~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./relocated postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd.db postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./TLS_LICENSE postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./transport postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./transport~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./virtual postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./virtual~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/active/57B5B16091B postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/6/6956D1641CD postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/7/7BD38160B9C postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/99AF71612E5 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/9F1B81607F0 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AC9631702F9 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AE6271608EC postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/D/DCBB7160F16 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by group _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/public postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by group _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/maildrop postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > I agree with you here Ken. I have 6 servers at Linode which in > > total cost me about half of what it was costing me to run ONE > > server on site. > > My point exactly. > > > > If I want another for some dev work, I can spin one up for a > > week - total cost $10. > > I have one for this kind of temporary use too, and it's only $10 > per year so I leave it on all year round. I figured that with > such a low price they'd be out of business by now, but clearly > they know what they are doing after 3 years without a hitch. > > > > I would NEVER go back to hardware EVER, EVER, EVER. > > Naturally! > > :) > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --f403043730c01418a40560d1ccd3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm getting the hint! Spent 2-3 days trying to get pos= tfix working on the newer machine! HUH El Capitan will NOT let me change pe= rmissions on the "System" folder HUH tried=C2=A0sudo chown _postf= ix /private/var/spool/postfix/* and few other combinations and they just co= me back!

So, I said OK lets try to upgrade to High Sierr= a, and after download, it tells me it can't install onto my Pcie RAID!!= !! HUH

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# postfix start

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root= : /etc/postfix/aliases

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./access

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./access~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./aliases

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./aliases~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./bounce.cf.default

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./canonical

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./canonical~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./custom_header_checks

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./generic

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./LICENSE

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf copy

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.orig.cf

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./makedefs.out

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf.default

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./relocated

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd.db

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./TLS_LICENSE

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./transport

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./transport~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./virtual

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./virtual~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/active/57B5B16091B

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/6/6956D1641CD

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/7/7BD38160B9C

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/99AF71612E5

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/9F1B81607F0

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AC9631702F9

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AE6271608EC

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/D/DCBB7160F16

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by grou= p _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/public

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by grou= p _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/maildrop

postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail = system

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root#=C2=A0


On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at= 10:52 PM, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wro= te:
> I agree with yo= u here Ken. I have 6 servers at Linode which in
> total cost me about half of what it was costing me to run ONE
> server on site.

My point exactly.


> If I want another for some dev work, I can spin one up for a
> week - total cost $10.

I have one for this kind of temporary use too, and it's only $10=
per year so I leave it on all year round.=C2=A0 I figured that with
such a low price they'd be out of business by now, but clearly
they know what they are doing after 3 years without a hitch.


> I would NEVER go back to hardware EVER, EVER, EVER.

Naturally!

:)

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration



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  1. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  2. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  3. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  4. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Stuart Tremain 2017)
  5. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  6. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  7. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  8. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Stuart Tremain 2017)
  9. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  10. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  11. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Boegershausen 2017)
  12. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  13. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  14. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2017)
  15. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  16. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  17. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Bob Minor 2017)
  18. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  19. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  20. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan (Kenneth Grome 2017)
  21. [WebDNA] El Capitan (Brian Harrington 2017)
  22. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  23. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Steve Craig 2015)
  24. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Steve Craig 2015)
  25. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Michael Davis 2015)
  26. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  27. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  28. Re: [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (Steve Craig 2015)
  29. [WebDNA] El Capitan with WebDNA 8.1 fastCGI (christophe.billiottet@webdna.us 2015)
  30. [WebDNA] El Capitan (Steve Craig 2015)
1520 --f403043730c01418a40560d1ccd3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I'm getting the hint! Spent 2-3 days trying to get postfix working on the newer machine! HUH El Capitan will NOT let me change permissions on the "System" folder HUH tried sudo chown _postfix /private/var/spool/postfix/* and few other combinations and they just come back! So, I said OK lets try to upgrade to High Sierra, and after download, it tells me it can't install onto my Pcie RAID!!!! HUH Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# postfix start postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root: /etc/postfix/aliases postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./access postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./access~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./aliases postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./aliases~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./bounce.cf.default postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./canonical postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./canonical~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./custom_header_checks postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./generic postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./LICENSE postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.cf postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.cf copy postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.cf~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ main.orig.cf postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./makedefs.out postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ master.cf postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf.default postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./ master.cf~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./relocated postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd.db postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./TLS_LICENSE postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./transport postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./transport~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./virtual postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other writable: /etc/postfix/./virtual~orig postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/active/57B5B16091B postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/6/6956D1641CD postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/7/7BD38160B9C postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/99AF71612E5 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/9F1B81607F0 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AC9631702F9 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AE6271608EC postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _postfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/D/DCBB7160F16 postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by group _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/public postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by group _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/maildrop postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail system Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Kenneth Grome wrote: > > I agree with you here Ken. I have 6 servers at Linode which in > > total cost me about half of what it was costing me to run ONE > > server on site. > > My point exactly. > > > > If I want another for some dev work, I can spin one up for a > > week - total cost $10. > > I have one for this kind of temporary use too, and it's only $10 > per year so I leave it on all year round. I figured that with > such a low price they'd be out of business by now, but clearly > they know what they are doing after 3 years without a hitch. > > > > I would NEVER go back to hardware EVER, EVER, EVER. > > Naturally! > > :) > > Regards, > Kenneth Grome > WebDNA Solutions > http://www.webdnasolutions.com > Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us > archives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=55 > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --f403043730c01418a40560d1ccd3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm getting the hint! Spent 2-3 days trying to get pos= tfix working on the newer machine! HUH El Capitan will NOT let me change pe= rmissions on the "System" folder HUH tried=C2=A0sudo chown _postf= ix /private/var/spool/postfix/* and few other combinations and they just co= me back!

So, I said OK lets try to upgrade to High Sierr= a, and after download, it tells me it can't install onto my Pcie RAID!!= !! HUH

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root# postfix start

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by root= : /etc/postfix/aliases

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./access

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./access~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./aliases

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./aliases~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./bounce.cf.default

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./canonical

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./canonical~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./custom_header_checks

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./generic

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./header_checks~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./LICENSE

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf copy

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf.default~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.cf~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./main.orig.cf

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./makedefs.out

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf.default

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./master.cf~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./relocated

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./sasl_passwd.db

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./TLS_LICENSE

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./transport

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./transport~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./virtual

postfix/postfix-script: warning: group or other wr= itable: /etc/postfix/./virtual~orig

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/active/57B5B16091B

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/6/6956D1641CD

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/7/7BD38160B9C

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/99AF71612E5

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/9/9F1B81607F0

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AC9631702F9

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/A/AE6271608EC

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by _pos= tfix: /private/var/spool/postfix/deferred/D/DCBB7160F16

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by grou= p _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/public

postfix/postfix-script: warning: not owned by grou= p _postdrop: /private/var/spool/postfix/maildrop

postfix/postfix-script: starting the Postfix mail = system

Brian-Harringtons-Mac-Pro:~ root#=C2=A0


On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at= 10:52 PM, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wro= te:
> I agree with yo= u here Ken. I have 6 servers at Linode which in
> total cost me about half of what it was costing me to run ONE
> server on site.

My point exactly.


> If I want another for some dev work, I can spin one up for a
> week - total cost $10.

I have one for this kind of temporary use too, and it's only $10=
per year so I leave it on all year round.=C2=A0 I figured that with
such a low price they'd be out of business by now, but clearly
they know what they are doing after 3 years without a hitch.


> I would NEVER go back to hardware EVER, EVER, EVER.

Naturally!

:)

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration



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