Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7

This WebDNA talk-list message is from

2011


It keeps the original formatting.
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texte = Chris, I understand and agree with your direction with WebDNA to make it more = palatable to ISPs. However, I cannot move to WebDNA 7 for my main web = servers without many hours of work and testing. Your statement "i really = do not understand the fellows here who feel that the world would stop = without /global" is rather dismissive to those of us who have been using = the product for years and have developed a system that (for good = reasons) relies on globals. In my case, I have two different physical web servers which host 20+ = domains between them. In both cases, most of the domains are virtual = clones of the same site with both shared code and shared databases. = Maintaining 20 copies of the code and separating the databases into 20 = domain-specific sets would be a lot of work and would lose functionality = such as single sign-on for multiple domains without additional effort. So, if I build new systems under WebDNA, I will keep the limitations of = version 7 in mind, but I cannot afford the effort of changing systems = that have been in place for 10 or more years. As such, those sites will = not be receiving any of the benefits of future WebDNA enhancements. Brian Fries BrainScan Software On Oct 26, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > [snip] >> In conclusion, i do not think the 6.x /global directory can save = programming time (by building a standard and local /global), is not = really saving space neither (few hundred kB?), implies major complexity = for WebDNA and restrict customer's freedom. Since it is very easy to = move locally the /global directory and fix the references to it with a = single "search and replace" in few minutes only, i really do not = understand the fellows here who feel that the world would stop without = /global. >>=20 >> - chris >=20 >=20 > What we've got here is (a) failure to communicate. >=20 > ;-) > Donovan >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Donovan Brooke > Euca Design Center > www.euca.us Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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Chris, I understand and agree with your direction with WebDNA to make it more = palatable to ISPs. However, I cannot move to WebDNA 7 for my main web = servers without many hours of work and testing. Your statement "i really = do not understand the fellows here who feel that the world would stop = without /global" is rather dismissive to those of us who have been using = the product for years and have developed a system that (for good = reasons) relies on globals. In my case, I have two different physical web servers which host 20+ = domains between them. In both cases, most of the domains are virtual = clones of the same site with both shared code and shared databases. = Maintaining 20 copies of the code and separating the databases into 20 = domain-specific sets would be a lot of work and would lose functionality = such as single sign-on for multiple domains without additional effort. So, if I build new systems under WebDNA, I will keep the limitations of = version 7 in mind, but I cannot afford the effort of changing systems = that have been in place for 10 or more years. As such, those sites will = not be receiving any of the benefits of future WebDNA enhancements. Brian Fries BrainScan Software On Oct 26, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Donovan Brooke wrote: > christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: > [snip] >> In conclusion, i do not think the 6.x /global directory can save = programming time (by building a standard and local /global), is not = really saving space neither (few hundred kB?), implies major complexity = for WebDNA and restrict customer's freedom. Since it is very easy to = move locally the /global directory and fix the references to it with a = single "search and replace" in few minutes only, i really do not = understand the fellows here who feel that the world would stop without = /global. >>=20 >> - chris >=20 >=20 > What we've got here is (a) failure to communicate. >=20 > ;-) > Donovan >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Donovan Brooke > Euca Design Center > www.euca.us Brian Fries

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