Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7
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texte = It is here: http://dev.webdna.us/whitepapers.html sincerely, - chris On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:03, Kenneth Grome wrote: > The old file based shopping cart system is one of the most > difficult parts of WebDNA to understand and deal with, even > when you do not inherit it from someone else. I just spent > a week building a custom cart system for a client, and his > online store has never been faster or easier for me to deal > with -- now that I have replaced his old, confusing order > file system with cookies and databases and a flexible > calculation system that is super-easy to understand and > debug. > > Unfortunately I think that a new WebDNA book may never be > written. But there is (or was) a PDF manual that I printed > and gave to my 200+ WebDNA trainees in the Philippines > almost a decade ago. I required them to study it because it > laid a solid foundation for professional use of the WebDNA > language, and it is probably still the best printable > resource out there, assuming WSC still makes it available > for download. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > > > >> I forget if I am suposed to top-post or not, so I >> apolozie if I am doing the wrong thing here. >> >> But I thought I'd chime in on the book part. >> >> I would loooove to get some more concrete examples and >> walkthroughs of the webdna, most of the system I am >> working with (yes it is only one system and might not be >> very complex compared to what others are working with) >> is something I inherited and its a nightmare to figure >> out what is going on half the time. >> >> If there were more/better ressources avaiable (I've not >> come across these videos that are about so I'd like a >> link if possible) then perhaps it would be easier to get >> into and understand what is going on. Especially the >> shopping-cart part of the system is something I've not >> touched yet as I am simply afraid to break something I >> can't fix. >> >> In short. Gimme a book or something, that is more >> explaning than the very limited (in my oppinon) >> documentation for webdna that i can find. >> >> /Tommy >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:31:24 -0700, "Lori Palmquist" >> >>
wrote: >>> I would like to chime in here, as a newbie. >>> >>> I am very excited about this new direction for WebDNA. >>> A year ago, I started >>> teaching myself web programming, so that I could create >>> a few web applications for the landscape business. I >>> got a subscription to Safari Books Online, and, with >>> their wonderful selection of web development >> >> books, >> >>> I taught myself HTML, XHTML, and CSS. When it came time >>> to put some life and >>> functionality into my applications, a friend told me >>> WebDNA was the best way >>> to go. He said it was a powerful and efficient >>> language. >>> >>> I looked all over for books, so that I could teach >>> myself WebDNA, as I >> >> had >> >>> done with the other languages. But I couldn't find any >>> books. The only teaching tool I could find, outside of >>> the WebDNA.us website, was Brian Burton's website >>> with tutorials. Brian's tutorials are excellent, but >>> limited, and I burned through them quickly. The video >>> tutorials that Donovan >>> made were very good too, and I watched them several >>> times. But they >> >> focused >> >>> mostly on store building, and my applications are very >>> different from >> >> the >> >>> store model. Also, the online references on the WebDNA >>> site are >> >> excellent, >> >>> but I have a hard time understanding them, because I >>> have no programming background. >>> >>> I was very tempted to go over to PHP and MySQL, because >>> there was a plethora >>> of books and tutorials available. I did a search for >>> PHP books on Safari Books Online, and found 143 books >>> and video tutorials with PHP in the title. >>> There were over 4,700 more books with at least a >>> chapter dedicated to >> >> PHP. >> >>> I >>> did a search on WebDNA, and found its name mentioned in >>> one reference >> >> book >> >>> on servers that was published in 2006. >>> >>> Just as I was about to bail over to PHP, I decided to >>> give WebDNA one >> >> more >> >>> go. I tried to take the Christophe's Tea Room >>> application that comes >> >> with >> >>> the WebDNA package, and plug my application into it. In >>> my very limited understanding of this language, and >>> programming in general, it was >> >> quickly >> >>> clear that this approach wasn't going to work. So I got >>> on the WebDNA Forum, >>> and asked for help. Govinda was there immediately to >>> take me by the >> >> hand, >> >>> and walk me through the code, acting as my programming >>> teacher. If not >> >> for >> >>> Govinda's patience and good graces, I would not have >>> become intimate >> >> with >> >>> this amazing language. >>> >>> I read every email that comes down the pike on this >>> talk forum. I have learned so much, and so appreciate >>> the sense of community and >> >> camaraderie >> >>> here. The participants are sharp, creative, and >>> responsive. I love this mojo! You guys are the best! >>> If the new direction is geared to >> >> attracting >> >>> more WebDNA developers, and it looks like it is... I, >>> for one, give a >> >> big >> >>> "thumbs up". Who knows, maybe some of you will start >>> writing some books. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> In deep appreciation and support, >>> >>> Lori >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@euca.us] >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:19 PM >>> To: talk@webdna.us >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7 >>> >>> I just did a test on a ubuntu9x - WebDNA7 config and >>> globals still >> >> works! >> >>> (I manually added a globals directory where the root of >>> the WebDNA.fcgi file is and called a file from there) >>> >>> Now, I may be running a beta WebDNA7?? so I don't know >>> if work was done to remove it. >>> >>> I have my 'WebDNA.fcgi' installed in a local cgi-bin >>> directory. >>> >>> ?? >>> >>> anyway.. thought I'd test that while I'm awaiting rdc >>> info from a client >>> >>> tonight. >>> >>> Ultimately, it would be better to have the ability to >>> move that Globals directory wherever you want it.. via >>> referencing a path in the webdna.ini file. >>> >>> >>> >>> Donovan >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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It is here: http://dev.webdna.us/whitepapers.html sincerely, - chris On Oct 27, 2011, at 9:03, Kenneth Grome wrote: > The old file based shopping cart system is one of the most > difficult parts of WebDNA to understand and deal with, even > when you do not inherit it from someone else. I just spent > a week building a custom cart system for a client, and his > online store has never been faster or easier for me to deal > with -- now that I have replaced his old, confusing order > file system with cookies and databases and a flexible > calculation system that is super-easy to understand and > debug. > > Unfortunately I think that a new WebDNA book may never be > written. But there is (or was) a PDF manual that I printed > and gave to my 200+ WebDNA trainees in the Philippines > almost a decade ago. I required them to study it because it > laid a solid foundation for professional use of the WebDNA > language, and it is probably still the best printable > resource out there, assuming WSC still makes it available > for download. > > Sincerely, > Kenneth Grome > > > >> I forget if I am suposed to top-post or not, so I >> apolozie if I am doing the wrong thing here. >> >> But I thought I'd chime in on the book part. >> >> I would loooove to get some more concrete examples and >> walkthroughs of the webdna, most of the system I am >> working with (yes it is only one system and might not be >> very complex compared to what others are working with) >> is something I inherited and its a nightmare to figure >> out what is going on half the time. >> >> If there were more/better ressources avaiable (I've not >> come across these videos that are about so I'd like a >> link if possible) then perhaps it would be easier to get >> into and understand what is going on. Especially the >> shopping-cart part of the system is something I've not >> touched yet as I am simply afraid to break something I >> can't fix. >> >> In short. Gimme a book or something, that is more >> explaning than the very limited (in my oppinon) >> documentation for webdna that i can find. >> >> /Tommy >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:31:24 -0700, "Lori Palmquist" >> >> wrote: >>> I would like to chime in here, as a newbie. >>> >>> I am very excited about this new direction for WebDNA. >>> A year ago, I started >>> teaching myself web programming, so that I could create >>> a few web applications for the landscape business. I >>> got a subscription to Safari Books Online, and, with >>> their wonderful selection of web development >> >> books, >> >>> I taught myself HTML, XHTML, and CSS. When it came time >>> to put some life and >>> functionality into my applications, a friend told me >>> WebDNA was the best way >>> to go. He said it was a powerful and efficient >>> language. >>> >>> I looked all over for books, so that I could teach >>> myself WebDNA, as I >> >> had >> >>> done with the other languages. But I couldn't find any >>> books. The only teaching tool I could find, outside of >>> the WebDNA.us website, was Brian Burton's website >>> with tutorials. Brian's tutorials are excellent, but >>> limited, and I burned through them quickly. The video >>> tutorials that Donovan >>> made were very good too, and I watched them several >>> times. But they >> >> focused >> >>> mostly on store building, and my applications are very >>> different from >> >> the >> >>> store model. Also, the online references on the WebDNA >>> site are >> >> excellent, >> >>> but I have a hard time understanding them, because I >>> have no programming background. >>> >>> I was very tempted to go over to PHP and MySQL, because >>> there was a plethora >>> of books and tutorials available. I did a search for >>> PHP books on Safari Books Online, and found 143 books >>> and video tutorials with PHP in the title. >>> There were over 4,700 more books with at least a >>> chapter dedicated to >> >> PHP. >> >>> I >>> did a search on WebDNA, and found its name mentioned in >>> one reference >> >> book >> >>> on servers that was published in 2006. >>> >>> Just as I was about to bail over to PHP, I decided to >>> give WebDNA one >> >> more >> >>> go. I tried to take the Christophe's Tea Room >>> application that comes >> >> with >> >>> the WebDNA package, and plug my application into it. In >>> my very limited understanding of this language, and >>> programming in general, it was >> >> quickly >> >>> clear that this approach wasn't going to work. So I got >>> on the WebDNA Forum, >>> and asked for help. Govinda was there immediately to >>> take me by the >> >> hand, >> >>> and walk me through the code, acting as my programming >>> teacher. If not >> >> for >> >>> Govinda's patience and good graces, I would not have >>> become intimate >> >> with >> >>> this amazing language. >>> >>> I read every email that comes down the pike on this >>> talk forum. I have learned so much, and so appreciate >>> the sense of community and >> >> camaraderie >> >>> here. The participants are sharp, creative, and >>> responsive. I love this mojo! You guys are the best! >>> If the new direction is geared to >> >> attracting >> >>> more WebDNA developers, and it looks like it is... I, >>> for one, give a >> >> big >> >>> "thumbs up". Who knows, maybe some of you will start >>> writing some books. >>> >>> :) >>> >>> In deep appreciation and support, >>> >>> Lori >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@euca.us] >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:19 PM >>> To: talk@webdna.us >>> Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7 >>> >>> I just did a test on a ubuntu9x - WebDNA7 config and >>> globals still >> >> works! >> >>> (I manually added a globals directory where the root of >>> the WebDNA.fcgi file is and called a file from there) >>> >>> Now, I may be running a beta WebDNA7?? so I don't know >>> if work was done to remove it. >>> >>> I have my 'WebDNA.fcgi' installed in a local cgi-bin >>> directory. >>> >>> ?? >>> >>> anyway.. thought I'd test that while I'm awaiting rdc >>> info from a client >>> >>> tonight. >>> >>> Ultimately, it would be better to have the ability to >>> move that Globals directory wherever you want it.. via >>> referencing a path in the webdna.ini file. >>> >>> >>> >>> Donovan >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to >> the mailing list . >> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us >> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us
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