RE: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7

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texte = I forget if I am suposed to top-post or not, so I apolozie if I am doing the wrong thing here. But I thought I'd chime in on the book part. I would loooove to get some more concrete examples and walkthroughs of th= e webdna, most of the system I am working with (yes it is only one system a= nd might not be very complex compared to what others are working with) is something I inherited and its a nightmare to figure out what is going on half the time. If there were more/better ressources avaiable (I've not come across these videos that are about so I'd like a link if possible) then perhaps it wou= ld be easier to get into and understand what is going on. Especially the shopping-cart part of the system is something I've not touched yet as I a= m simply afraid to break something I can't fix. In short. Gimme a book or something, that is more explaning than the very limited (in my oppinon) documentation for webdna that i can find. /Tommy On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:31:24 -0700, "Lori Palmquist" wrote: > I would like to chime in here, as a newbie. >=20 > I am very excited about this new direction for WebDNA. A year ago, I > started > teaching myself web programming, so that I could create a few web > applications for the landscape business. I got a subscription to Safari > Books Online, and, with their wonderful selection of web development books, > I taught myself HTML, XHTML, and CSS. When it came time to put some lif= e > and > functionality into my applications, a friend told me WebDNA was the bes= t > way > to go. He said it was a powerful and efficient language. >=20 > I looked all over for books, so that I could teach myself WebDNA, as I had > done with the other languages. But I couldn't find any books. The only > teaching tool I could find, outside of the WebDNA.us website, was Bria= n > Burton's website with tutorials. Brian's tutorials are excellent, but > limited, and I burned through them quickly. The video tutorials that > Donovan > made were very good too, and I watched them several times. But they focused > mostly on store building, and my applications are very different from the > store model. Also, the online references on the WebDNA site are excellent, > but I have a hard time understanding them, because I have no programmin= g > background. >=20 > I was very tempted to go over to PHP and MySQL, because there was a > plethora > of books and tutorials available. I did a search for PHP books on Safar= i > Books Online, and found 143 books and video tutorials with PHP in the > title. > There were over 4,700 more books with at least a chapter dedicated to PHP. > I > did a search on WebDNA, and found its name mentioned in one reference book > on servers that was published in 2006.=20 >=20 > Just as I was about to bail over to PHP, I decided to give WebDNA one more > go. I tried to take the Christophe's Tea Room application that comes with > the WebDNA package, and plug my application into it. In my very limited > understanding of this language, and programming in general, it was quickly > clear that this approach wasn't going to work. So I got on the WebDNA > Forum, > and asked for help. Govinda was there immediately to take me by the hand, > and walk me through the code, acting as my programming teacher. If not for > Govinda's patience and good graces, I would not have become intimate with > this amazing language. >=20 > I read every email that comes down the pike on this talk forum. I have > learned so much, and so appreciate the sense of community and camaraderie > here. The participants are sharp, creative, and responsive. I love this > mojo! You guys are the best! If the new direction is geared to attracting > more WebDNA developers, and it looks like it is... I, for one, give a big > "thumbs up". Who knows, maybe some of you will start writing some books= . > :)=20 >=20 > In deep appreciation and support, >=20 > Lori >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@euca.us]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:19 PM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7 >=20 > I just did a test on a ubuntu9x - WebDNA7 config and globals still works! >=20 > (I manually added a globals directory where the root of the WebDNA.fcgi > file is and called a file from there) >=20 > Now, I may be running a beta WebDNA7?? so I don't know if work was > done to remove it. >=20 > I have my 'WebDNA.fcgi' installed in a local cgi-bin directory. >=20 > ?? >=20 > anyway.. thought I'd test that while I'm awaiting rdc info from a clien= t > tonight. >=20 > Ultimately, it would be better to have the ability to move that > Globals directory wherever you want it.. via referencing a path in the=20 > webdna.ini file. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Donovan Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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I forget if I am suposed to top-post or not, so I apolozie if I am doing the wrong thing here. But I thought I'd chime in on the book part. I would loooove to get some more concrete examples and walkthroughs of th= e webdna, most of the system I am working with (yes it is only one system a= nd might not be very complex compared to what others are working with) is something I inherited and its a nightmare to figure out what is going on half the time. If there were more/better ressources avaiable (I've not come across these videos that are about so I'd like a link if possible) then perhaps it wou= ld be easier to get into and understand what is going on. Especially the shopping-cart part of the system is something I've not touched yet as I a= m simply afraid to break something I can't fix. In short. Gimme a book or something, that is more explaning than the very limited (in my oppinon) documentation for webdna that i can find. /Tommy On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:31:24 -0700, "Lori Palmquist" wrote: > I would like to chime in here, as a newbie. >=20 > I am very excited about this new direction for WebDNA. A year ago, I > started > teaching myself web programming, so that I could create a few web > applications for the landscape business. I got a subscription to Safari > Books Online, and, with their wonderful selection of web development books, > I taught myself HTML, XHTML, and CSS. When it came time to put some lif= e > and > functionality into my applications, a friend told me WebDNA was the bes= t > way > to go. He said it was a powerful and efficient language. >=20 > I looked all over for books, so that I could teach myself WebDNA, as I had > done with the other languages. But I couldn't find any books. The only > teaching tool I could find, outside of the WebDNA.us website, was Bria= n > Burton's website with tutorials. Brian's tutorials are excellent, but > limited, and I burned through them quickly. The video tutorials that > Donovan > made were very good too, and I watched them several times. But they focused > mostly on store building, and my applications are very different from the > store model. Also, the online references on the WebDNA site are excellent, > but I have a hard time understanding them, because I have no programmin= g > background. >=20 > I was very tempted to go over to PHP and MySQL, because there was a > plethora > of books and tutorials available. I did a search for PHP books on Safar= i > Books Online, and found 143 books and video tutorials with PHP in the > title. > There were over 4,700 more books with at least a chapter dedicated to PHP. > I > did a search on WebDNA, and found its name mentioned in one reference book > on servers that was published in 2006.=20 >=20 > Just as I was about to bail over to PHP, I decided to give WebDNA one more > go. I tried to take the Christophe's Tea Room application that comes with > the WebDNA package, and plug my application into it. In my very limited > understanding of this language, and programming in general, it was quickly > clear that this approach wasn't going to work. So I got on the WebDNA > Forum, > and asked for help. Govinda was there immediately to take me by the hand, > and walk me through the code, acting as my programming teacher. If not for > Govinda's patience and good graces, I would not have become intimate with > this amazing language. >=20 > I read every email that comes down the pike on this talk forum. I have > learned so much, and so appreciate the sense of community and camaraderie > here. The participants are sharp, creative, and responsive. I love this > mojo! You guys are the best! If the new direction is geared to attracting > more WebDNA developers, and it looks like it is... I, for one, give a big > "thumbs up". Who knows, maybe some of you will start writing some books= . > :)=20 >=20 > In deep appreciation and support, >=20 > Lori >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Donovan Brooke [mailto:dbrooke@euca.us]=20 > Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 6:19 PM > To: talk@webdna.us > Subject: Re: [WebDNA] WebDNA 7 >=20 > I just did a test on a ubuntu9x - WebDNA7 config and globals still works! >=20 > (I manually added a globals directory where the root of the WebDNA.fcgi > file is and called a file from there) >=20 > Now, I may be running a beta WebDNA7?? so I don't know if work was > done to remove it. >=20 > I have my 'WebDNA.fcgi' installed in a local cgi-bin directory. >=20 > ?? >=20 > anyway.. thought I'd test that while I'm awaiting rdc info from a clien= t > tonight. >=20 > Ultimately, it would be better to have the ability to move that > Globals directory wherever you want it.. via referencing a path in the=20 > webdna.ini file. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Donovan

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