Re: [WebDNA] Ubuntu 14.04 & WebDNA

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2017


It keeps the original formatting.
numero = 113306
interpreted = N
texte = 899 --Apple-Mail=_C9559E07-2D4C-431F-B92E-7AE5558C7B6E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Chris Maybe older versions could be made available on the downloads page under = the heading that support is not available for the following downloads.=20= Kind regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au > On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 > Hello! >=20 > Yes, pricing has been changed two years ago, in January 2015, so there = is only one version of the FastCGI that can run (fast) in freeware mode = for free, without any mathematical operation to be solved or any = annoying limit, or can run in registered mode (faster) for a small $59 = accelerator certificate. >=20 > On another side, there is the server version (unlimited services, = unlimited domains for one single machine) which is the old "Enterprise" = version for $459, and the Developer version which is free. >=20 > About the question "This method is not suitable to update WebDNA and = previous installation will be overwritten. It must be a fresh WebDNA = install on a default Ubuntu 14.=E2=80=9D Does this mean a server rebuild = or is there another way to get this happening ? I tried an install over = the top of an existing server upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, but = have run into problems, rather than spending hours trying to debug, it = would be good to know if there is a =E2=80=9Cmanual=E2=80=9D method of = installing/upgrading or do I just build a new server. >=20 > The installation process relies on the position of directories, apache = user, dependencies version, and each LINUX OS has his own formula for = this. Moreover, each LINUX OS might change the formula from one version = to the other. Apache Software Foundation will also change the rules from = time to time. We have to adapt and we provide installers for the major = LINUX distributions. However, from a distribution to another, the = changes oblige us to make slight installer modifications. Making = installers intelligent enough to detect that there have been an upgrade, = from LINUX version X to LINUX version Y is doable, but not financially = viable. You can do the installation yourself, as basically, installing = WebDNA server is a matter of permissions (always), SELinux (annoying), a = connector and a module (built for a specific LINUX version) and http = config, with a single formula that would work for every installation if = apache config remained consistent, which is not always the case. Upon = request, we can provide the connector and module. Or we are always = willing to help and many of you know that we always bring quick support = when requested. >=20 > Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in 2008, is still available = upon request to support@webdna.us > If we keep a software online, then we have to provide support, and = WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore. >=20 > Happy New Year to all, >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 5, 2017, at 01:05, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>=20 >> I see that pricing has changed again. The server edition is now = unlimited only, and the cheaper limited domains edition no longer = available. >>=20 >> Kind regards >>=20 >> Stuart Tremain >> Pharoah Lane Software >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_C9559E07-2D4C-431F-B92E-7AE5558C7B6E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi Chris

Maybe older versions could be made available on the downloads = page under the heading that support is not available for the following = downloads. 


Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA






On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

Hello!

Yes, pricing has been = changed two years ago, in January 2015, so there is only one version of = the FastCGI that can run (fast) in freeware mode for free, without any = mathematical operation to be solved or any annoying limit, or can run in = registered mode (faster) for a small $59 accelerator certificate.

On another side, there is the server version = (unlimited services, unlimited domains for one single machine) which is = the old "Enterprise" version for $459, and the Developer version which = is free.

About the question "This method is = not suitable to update WebDNA and previous installation will be = overwritten. It must be a fresh WebDNA install on a default Ubuntu = 14.=E2=80=9D Does this mean a server rebuild or is there another way to = get this happening ? I tried an install over the top of an existing = server upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, but have run into problems, = rather than spending hours trying to debug, it would be good to know if = there is a =E2=80=9Cmanual=E2=80=9D method of installing/upgrading or do = I just build a new server.

The installation = process relies on the position of directories, apache user, dependencies = version, and each LINUX OS has his own formula for this. Moreover, each = LINUX OS might change the formula from one version to the other. Apache = Software Foundation will also change the rules from time to time. We = have to adapt and we provide installers for the major LINUX = distributions. However, from a distribution to another, the changes = oblige us to make slight installer modifications. Making installers = intelligent enough to detect that there have been an upgrade, from LINUX = version X to LINUX version Y is doable, but not financially viable. You = can do the installation yourself, as basically, installing WebDNA server = is a matter of permissions (always), SELinux (annoying), a connector and = a module (built for a specific LINUX version) and http config, with a = single formula that would work for every installation if apache config = remained consistent, which is not always the case. Upon request, we can = provide the connector and module. Or we are always willing to help and = many of you know that we always bring quick support when requested.

Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in = 2008, is still available upon request to support@webdna.us
If we keep a software online, then we have to provide = support, and WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore.

Happy New Year to all,

- = chris



On Jan 5, 2017, at = 01:05, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:

I see that pricing has changed again. The server edition is = now unlimited only, and the cheaper limited domains edition no longer = available.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au







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899 --Apple-Mail=_C9559E07-2D4C-431F-B92E-7AE5558C7B6E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Chris Maybe older versions could be made available on the downloads page under = the heading that support is not available for the following downloads.=20= Kind regards Stuart Tremain Pharoah Lane Software AUSTRALIA webdna@idfk.com.au > On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote: >=20 > Hello! >=20 > Yes, pricing has been changed two years ago, in January 2015, so there = is only one version of the FastCGI that can run (fast) in freeware mode = for free, without any mathematical operation to be solved or any = annoying limit, or can run in registered mode (faster) for a small $59 = accelerator certificate. >=20 > On another side, there is the server version (unlimited services, = unlimited domains for one single machine) which is the old "Enterprise" = version for $459, and the Developer version which is free. >=20 > About the question "This method is not suitable to update WebDNA and = previous installation will be overwritten. It must be a fresh WebDNA = install on a default Ubuntu 14.=E2=80=9D Does this mean a server rebuild = or is there another way to get this happening ? I tried an install over = the top of an existing server upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, but = have run into problems, rather than spending hours trying to debug, it = would be good to know if there is a =E2=80=9Cmanual=E2=80=9D method of = installing/upgrading or do I just build a new server. >=20 > The installation process relies on the position of directories, apache = user, dependencies version, and each LINUX OS has his own formula for = this. Moreover, each LINUX OS might change the formula from one version = to the other. Apache Software Foundation will also change the rules from = time to time. We have to adapt and we provide installers for the major = LINUX distributions. However, from a distribution to another, the = changes oblige us to make slight installer modifications. Making = installers intelligent enough to detect that there have been an upgrade, = from LINUX version X to LINUX version Y is doable, but not financially = viable. You can do the installation yourself, as basically, installing = WebDNA server is a matter of permissions (always), SELinux (annoying), a = connector and a module (built for a specific LINUX version) and http = config, with a single formula that would work for every installation if = apache config remained consistent, which is not always the case. Upon = request, we can provide the connector and module. Or we are always = willing to help and many of you know that we always bring quick support = when requested. >=20 > Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in 2008, is still available = upon request to support@webdna.us > If we keep a software online, then we have to provide support, and = WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore. >=20 > Happy New Year to all, >=20 > - chris >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jan 5, 2017, at 01:05, Stuart Tremain wrote: >>=20 >> I see that pricing has changed again. The server edition is now = unlimited only, and the cheaper limited domains edition no longer = available. >>=20 >> Kind regards >>=20 >> Stuart Tremain >> Pharoah Lane Software >> AUSTRALIA >> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us > Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us --Apple-Mail=_C9559E07-2D4C-431F-B92E-7AE5558C7B6E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi Chris

Maybe older versions could be made available on the downloads = page under the heading that support is not available for the following = downloads. 


Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA






On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us wrote:

Hello!

Yes, pricing has been = changed two years ago, in January 2015, so there is only one version of = the FastCGI that can run (fast) in freeware mode for free, without any = mathematical operation to be solved or any annoying limit, or can run in = registered mode (faster) for a small $59 accelerator certificate.

On another side, there is the server version = (unlimited services, unlimited domains for one single machine) which is = the old "Enterprise" version for $459, and the Developer version which = is free.

About the question "This method is = not suitable to update WebDNA and previous installation will be = overwritten. It must be a fresh WebDNA install on a default Ubuntu = 14.=E2=80=9D Does this mean a server rebuild or is there another way to = get this happening ? I tried an install over the top of an existing = server upgraded from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, but have run into problems, = rather than spending hours trying to debug, it would be good to know if = there is a =E2=80=9Cmanual=E2=80=9D method of installing/upgrading or do = I just build a new server.

The installation = process relies on the position of directories, apache user, dependencies = version, and each LINUX OS has his own formula for this. Moreover, each = LINUX OS might change the formula from one version to the other. Apache = Software Foundation will also change the rules from time to time. We = have to adapt and we provide installers for the major LINUX = distributions. However, from a distribution to another, the changes = oblige us to make slight installer modifications. Making installers = intelligent enough to detect that there have been an upgrade, from LINUX = version X to LINUX version Y is doable, but not financially viable. You = can do the installation yourself, as basically, installing WebDNA server = is a matter of permissions (always), SELinux (annoying), a connector and = a module (built for a specific LINUX version) and http config, with a = single formula that would work for every installation if apache config = remained consistent, which is not always the case. Upon request, we can = provide the connector and module. Or we are always willing to help and = many of you know that we always bring quick support when requested.

Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in = 2008, is still available upon request to support@webdna.us
If we keep a software online, then we have to provide = support, and WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore.

Happy New Year to all,

- = chris



On Jan 5, 2017, at = 01:05, Stuart Tremain <webdna@idfk.com.au> wrote:

I see that pricing has changed again. The server edition is = now unlimited only, and the cheaper limited domains edition no longer = available.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au







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