Re: [WebDNA] Ubuntu 14.04 & WebDNA

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2017

It keeps the original formatting. numero = 113313
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texte = 906--Apple-Mail=_DC530D23-6CC0-45F9-A1B6-E8D701FDB047Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8Then again if you have a shiny, newly installed 8.5.1 server version you =can follow the links in the nav to all sorts of goodies:http://dev.webdna.us/products.html http://dev.webdna.us/updates.html Kind regardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane SoftwareAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.au> On 6 Jan 2017, at 09:09, Kenneth Grome =wrote:>=20> Good idea!>=20> :)>=20> Regards,> Kenneth Grome> WebDNA Solutions> http://www.webdnasolutions.com> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>=20>=20>=20> On 01/05/2017 03:48 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>> Hi Chris>>=20>> Maybe older versions could be made available on the downloads page>> under the heading that support is not available for the following>> downloads.=20>>=20>>=20>> Kind regards>>=20>> Stuart Tremain>> Pharoah Lane Software>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us>>> wrote:>>>=20>>> Hello!>>>=20>>> Yes, pricing has been changed two years ago, in January 2015, so>>> there is only one version of the FastCGI that can run (fast) in>>> freeware mode for free, without any mathematical operation to be>>> solved or any annoying limit, or can run in registered mode>>> (faster) for a small $59 accelerator certificate.>>>=20>>> On another side, there is the server version (unlimited>>> services, unlimited domains for one single machine) which is the>>> old "Enterprise" version for $459, and the Developer version>>> which is free.>>>=20>>> About the question "This method is not suitable to update WebDNA>>> and previous installation will be overwritten. It must be a>>> fresh WebDNA install on a default Ubuntu 14.=E2=80=9D Does this mean =a>>> server rebuild or is there another way to get this happening ? I>>> tried an install over the top of an existing server upgraded>>> from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, but have run into problems, rather>>> than spending hours trying to debug, it would be good to know if>>> there is a =E2=80=9Cmanual=E2=80=9D method of installing/upgrading =or do I just>>> build a new server.>>>=20>>> The installation process relies on the position of directories,>>> apache user, dependencies version, and each LINUX OS has his own>>> formula for this. Moreover, each LINUX OS might change the>>> formula from one version to the other. Apache Software>>> Foundation will also change the rules from time to time. We have>>> to adapt and we provide installers for the major LINUX>>> distributions. However, from a distribution to another, the>>> changes oblige us to make slight installer modifications. Making>>> installers intelligent enough to detect that there have been an>>> upgrade, from LINUX version X to LINUX version Y is doable, but>>> not financially viable. You can do the installation yourself, as>>> basically, installing WebDNA server is a matter of permissions>>> (always), SELinux (annoying), a connector and a module (built>>> for a specific LINUX version) and http config, with a single>>> formula that would work for every installation if apache config>>> remained consistent, which is not always the case. Upon request,>>> we can provide the connector and module. Or we are always>>> willing to help and many of you know that we always bring quick>>> support when requested.>>>=20>>> Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in 2008, is still>>> available upon request to support@webdna.us>>> >>> If we keep a software online, then we have to provide support,>>> and WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore.>>>=20>>> Happy New Year to all,>>>=20>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>> On Jan 5, 2017, at 01:05, Stuart Tremain >>> > wrote:>>>>=20>>>> I see that pricing has changed again. The server edition is now>>>> unlimited only, and the cheaper limited domains edition no>>>> longer available.>>>>=20>>>> Kind regards>>>>=20>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>> Pharoah Lane Software>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>=20>>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list >.>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>> list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives:>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting:>> support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail=_DC530D23-6CC0-45F9-A1B6-E8D701FDB047Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8Then again if you have a shiny, newly installed 8.5.1 server =version you can follow the links in the nav to all sorts of goodies:

http://dev.webdna.us/products.html

http://dev.webdna.us/updates.html

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain

Pharoah Lane =Software

AUSTRALIA

webdna@idfk.com.au

On 6 Jan 2017, at 09:09, Kenneth Grome <ken@webdnasolutions.com> wrote:

Good =idea!

:)

Regards,
Kenneth Grome
WebDNA =Solutions
http://www.webdnasolutions.com
Web Database =Systems and Linux Server Administration

On 01/05/2017 03:48 PM, Stuart Tremain =wrote:
Hi Chris

Maybe older versions could be made available =on the downloads page
under the heading that support is =not available for the following
downloads.

Kind regards

Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au =<mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>

On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, =christophe.billiottet@webdna.us
<mailto:christophe.billiottet@webdna.us> wrote:

Hello!

Yes, =pricing has been changed two years ago, in January 2015, so
there is only one version of the FastCGI that can run (fast) =in
freeware mode for free, without any mathematical =operation to be
solved or any annoying limit, or can run =in registered mode
(faster) for a small $59 accelerator =certificate.

On another side, there is the =server version (unlimited
services, unlimited domains for =one single machine) which is the
old "Enterprise" version =for $459, and the Developer version
which is free.

About the question "This method is not =suitable to update WebDNA
and previous installation will =be overwritten. It must be a
fresh WebDNA install on a =default Ubuntu 14.=E2=80=9D Does this mean a
server =rebuild or is there another way to get this happening ? I
tried an install over the top of an existing server =upgraded
from Ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04, but have run into =problems, rather
than spending hours trying to debug, it =would be good to know if
there is a =E2=80=9Cmanual=E2=80=9D= method of installing/upgrading or do I just
build a new =server.

The installation process relies on =the position of directories,
apache user, dependencies =version, and each LINUX OS has his own
formula for this. =Moreover, each LINUX OS might change the
formula from one =version to the other. Apache Software
Foundation will also =change the rules from time to time. We have
to adapt and =we provide installers for the major LINUX
distributions. =However, from a distribution to another, the
changes =oblige us to make slight installer modifications. Making
installers intelligent enough to detect that there have been =an
upgrade, from LINUX version X to LINUX version Y is =doable, but
not financially viable. You can do the =installation yourself, as
basically, installing WebDNA =server is a matter of permissions
(always), SELinux =(annoying), a connector and a module (built
for a specific =LINUX version) and http config, with a single
formula that =would work for every installation if apache config
remained =consistent, which is not always the case. Upon request,
we =can provide the connector and module. Or we are always
willing to help and many of you know that we always bring =quick
support when requested.

Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in 2008, is =still
available upon request to support@webdna.us
<mailto:support@webdna.us>
If we keep a =software online, then we have to provide support,
and =WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore.

Happy =New Year to all,

- chris

On Jan 5, 2017, at 01:05, Stuart Tremain =<webdna@idfk.com.au
<mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>>= wrote:

I see that pricing has changed =again. The server edition is now
unlimited only, and the =cheaper limited domains edition no
longer available.

Kind regards

Stuart= Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA
webdna@idfk.com.au <mailto:webdna@idfk.com.au>

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906--Apple-Mail=_DC530D23-6CC0-45F9-A1B6-E8D701FDB047Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8Then again if you have a shiny, newly installed 8.5.1 server version you =can follow the links in the nav to all sorts of goodies:http://dev.webdna.us/products.html http://dev.webdna.us/updates.html Kind regardsStuart TremainPharoah Lane SoftwareAUSTRALIAwebdna@idfk.com.au> On 6 Jan 2017, at 09:09, Kenneth Grome =wrote:>=20> Good idea!>=20> :)>=20> Regards,> Kenneth Grome> WebDNA Solutions> http://www.webdnasolutions.com> Web Database Systems and Linux Server Administration>=20>=20>=20> On 01/05/2017 03:48 PM, Stuart Tremain wrote:>> Hi Chris>>=20>> Maybe older versions could be made available on the downloads page>> under the heading that support is not available for the following>> downloads.=20>>=20>>=20>> Kind regards>>=20>> Stuart Tremain>> Pharoah Lane Software>> AUSTRALIA>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>=20>>> On 5 Jan 2017, at 19:39, christophe.billiottet@webdna.us>>> wrote:>>>=20>>> Hello!>>>=20>>> Yes, pricing has been changed two years ago, in January 2015, so>>> there is only one version of the FastCGI that can run (fast) in>>> freeware mode for free, without any mathematical operation to be>>> solved or any annoying limit, or can run in registered mode>>> (faster) for a small $59 accelerator certificate.>>>=20>>> On another side, there is the server version (unlimited>>> services, unlimited domains for one single machine) which is the>>> old "Enterprise" version for $459, and the Developer version>>> which is free.>>>=20>>> About the question "This method is not suitable to update WebDNA>>> and previous installation will be overwritten. 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Making>>> installers intelligent enough to detect that there have been an>>> upgrade, from LINUX version X to LINUX version Y is doable, but>>> not financially viable. You can do the installation yourself, as>>> basically, installing WebDNA server is a matter of permissions>>> (always), SELinux (annoying), a connector and a module (built>>> for a specific LINUX version) and http config, with a single>>> formula that would work for every installation if apache config>>> remained consistent, which is not always the case. Upon request,>>> we can provide the connector and module. Or we are always>>> willing to help and many of you know that we always bring quick>>> support when requested.>>>=20>>> Finally, the version 6, from 2004 and 6.2 in 2008, is still>>> available upon request to support@webdna.us>>> >>> If we keep a software online, then we have to provide support,>>> and WebDNA 6 is NOT supported anymore.>>>=20>>> Happy New Year to all,>>>=20>>> - chris>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>> On Jan 5, 2017, at 01:05, Stuart Tremain >>> > wrote:>>>>=20>>>> I see that pricing has changed again. The server edition is now>>>> unlimited only, and the cheaper limited domains edition no>>>> longer available.>>>>=20>>>> Kind regards>>>>=20>>>> Stuart Tremain>>>> Pharoah Lane Software>>>> AUSTRALIA>>>> webdna@idfk.com.au >>>>=20>>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>>=20>>> --------------------------------------------------------->>> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to>>> the mailing list >.>>> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: >> >>>> archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us>>> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us >>=20>> --------------------------------------------------------- This>> message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing>> list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: archives:>> http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us Bug Reporting:>> support@webdna.us> ---------------------------------------------------------> This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to> the mailing list .> To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > archives: http://mail.webdna.us/list/talk@webdna.us> Bug Reporting: support@webdna.us--Apple-Mail=_DC530D23-6CC0-45F9-A1B6-E8D701FDB047Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableContent-Type: text/html;charset=utf-8Then again if you have a shiny, newly installed 8.5.1 server =version you can follow the links in the nav to all sorts of goodies: