=EF=BB=BFFYI I NEVER MENTIONED YOUR N=AME OR U WERE THE ONE HELPING ME! THEY ALL ASSUMED THAT I'M SURE CUZ U ALL S=O CLOSE... AND BTW YES I WAS PLANNING ON DOING SOMETHING TO REPAY YOU FOR "H=ELPING" ME! AND I'M SURE IF YOU REVIEW ALL YOUR NOTES I SAID THANK YOU MANY T=IMES! AND I HOPE WHAT I DID TO MAKE MY LIFE EASIER ON THE FILE PATH ISSUE HELPS OTHERS!!!On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain <webdna@plsoftware.com.au> wrote=:I have really leaned another one of this life's le=ssons today.As any member of this list will may or may n=ot know I have been an active member of this list for 20+ years.<=br>During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDN=A from people such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since m=oved on.I have always tried hard to return the fav=our and as such at times have gone far and beyond the task of offering help.= I have enjoyed giving back to the community from which my skills have grown=.. This I believe is the reason why I have been contracted by WebDNA users fr=om around the world.I have seen many users over th=e years with configuration problems, in particular the last few weeks with U=buntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wrote the instructions a week or so ago o=n how to set up WebDNA on a fresh installation of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went= as far as to provide an image of the same available to anyone that would li=ke it, all in the hope that WebDNA would become a quick easy solution for me=mbers of this list to implement.I had a number of p=eople request a copy of this image, none of whom have taken up the offer. On=e user requested that I build an image that anyone could use on any platform=.. However this is not possible for cloud servers as each cloud provider has t=heir own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their hosting configuration. The instruc=tions that I publish will work if you follow the steps on any host and/or ne=w Ubuntu 18.0 installation.And then along came Bri=an Harrington.I must preface this with the f=act that everything that i have done for Brian was at no charge, purely a ge=sture of good will that I extend to all members of this list.
=Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he cre=ated. I offered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less t=han a minute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using s=sh, Brian had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not receiv=ed the image that I had shared with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things= easier and so that he didn=E2=80=99t have to go backwards I simply complete=d the installation from the instructions that I had published. Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny n=ew Ubuntu 18.04 server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server= that was only requiring a license number.As you w=ill know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin is also instal=led on the Droplet.What happened next is purely co=mical, if I published the emails that I received and you read the warnings t=hat I provided, plus the repeated advice that I gave, you would see ex=actly where Brian=E2=80=99s problems are.=46rom he=re all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/html and set u=p his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional with all the s=tandard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA installer.<=div>As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 8=0 the other on 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he coul=d have a working reference.However Brian had other= plans, he wanted to create a new directory /Library/Websites to be the root= directory of his webserver, remember this is the same person that has had n=o experience with a Linux server, he has had experience with a Mac server so= I believed that he had a good sense of being able to manage a Linux Server.= Brian didn=E2=80=99t want to use the installed Webmin, he wanted to do all A=pache configuration by uploading files with FTP however he didn=E2=80=99t ha=ve a FTP client.Brian, you may remember the Skype m=essage that I sent you expressing my concern that if you work outside the st=andard installation you would break it.For the res=t of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, provide advice.= All the time doing my own work that Brian=E2=80=99s emails were interruptin=g. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to answer him im=mediately due to the 10 hour time difference.Then o=n Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from Brian - h=e had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for him too, repai=red his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that in 19 minute=s time I would be leaving for the weekend.So it is= now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this morning aft=er have a =E2=80=98family=E2=80=99 day yesterday to see the usually quiet We=bDNA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installation=..What does surprise me, and leads me to writing th=is email are comments pointed to myself by Brian such as:"TalkList members say they will help... then the=y are GONE and suddenly don't has access to email or skype???!!! Nothing wor=se than someone setting you up to fail...!!!=E2=80=9D=Brian had a very large V=Host file that he moved from his Mac server to the Linux environment without= any alterations. He believes that it was easier to change the configuration= of the Linux/Apache server than to use search and replace on his VHost file=.. Brian=E2=80=99s problems relate directly to Permissions and the relocation= of his server root. I note that Brian has said:" I have no idea why Stuart think=s /Library/Webserver files are gonna be an issue when apache2.conf list shar=e folder and everything else.=E2=80=9D, I guess to Brian taking advice f=rom someone that has 23 operational Ubuntu 18.04 servers really doesn=E2==80=99t make much sense. So Brian, if you had followed my advice,= you would have been 100% operational as soon as all your files had been upl=oaded to the /var/www/html directory and had their ownership and prefer=ences checked, and had simply changed the root locations in your&n=bsp;vhost configuration file simply with a search and replace with your text= editor. If you listened to the FREE advice that you were given or you could= have even asked me to do it you would have had a fully functional server ma=ny days ago.=Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that you hav=e made about me.---------------------------------------------------------This message is sent to you because you are subscribed tothe mailing list talk@we=bdna.usTo unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.usarchives: http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55Bug Reporting: suppor=t@webdna.us
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