Re: [WebDNA] Brian Harrington

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2019


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texte = 2469 --0000000000009baee20593ca58b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW CAN U PLEASE GET MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY ITSELF... IT WAS FINE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL WITH THE GODADDY DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT... THEY HELPED ME HAND EDIT ALL 117 DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORDS THEN ENTERING MY HOME IP AS WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE ARE THE ONLY 2 DOMAINS POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ON NEW DROPLET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS WAS NOT ABLE TO LOGIN VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK YOU U R AWESOME! On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain wrote: > I have really leaned another one of this life's lessons today. > > As any member of this list will may or may not know I have been an active > member of this list for 20+ years. > > During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDNA from > people such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since move= d > on. > > I have always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times have > gone far and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back > to the community from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the > reason why I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world. > > I have seen many users over the years with configuration problems, in > particular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I > wrote the instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fres= h > installation of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image = of > the same available to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that > WebDNA would become a quick easy solution for members of this list to > implement. > > I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of whom have > taken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that anyone > could use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud servers > as each cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their > hosting configuration. The instructions that I publish will work if you > follow the steps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 installation. > > And then along came Brian Harrington. > > I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done for > Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to al= l > members of this list. > > Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I > offered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than = a > minute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, > Brian had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not receive= d > the image that I had shared with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things > easier and so that he didn=E2=80=99t have to go backwards I simply comple= ted the > installation from the instructions that I had published. > > Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 18.0= 4 > server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was onl= y > requiring a license number. > > As you will know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin is > also installed on the Droplet. > > What happened next is purely comical, if I published the emails that I > received and you read the warnings that I provided, plus the repeated > advice that I gave, you would see exactly where Brian=E2=80=99s problems= are. > > From here all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/html > and set up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional > with all the standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA > installer. > > As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other on > 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a > working reference. > > However Brian had other plans, he wanted to create a new directory > /Library/Websites to be the root directory of his webserver, remember thi= s > is the same person that has had no experience with a Linux server, he has > had experience with a Mac server so I believed that he had a good sense o= f > being able to manage a Linux Server. Brian didn=E2=80=99t want to use the= installed > Webmin, he wanted to do all Apache configuration by uploading files with > FTP however he didn=E2=80=99t have a FTP client. > > Brian, you may remember the Skype message that I sent you expressing my > concern that if you work outside the standard installation you would brea= k > it. > > For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, > provide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=E2=80=99s email= s were > interrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to > answer him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference. > > Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from > Brian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for hi= m > too, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that > in 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend. > > So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this > morning after have a =E2=80=98family=E2=80=99 day yesterday to see the us= ually quiet WebDNA > list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installation. > > What does surprise me, and leads me to writing this email are comments > pointed to myself by Brian such as: > "*TalkList members say they will help... then they are GONE and suddenly > don't has access to email or skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setti= ng > you up to fail...!!!*=E2=80=9D > > Brian had a very large VHost file that he moved from his Mac server to th= e > Linux environment without any alterations. He believes that it was easier > to change the configuration of the Linux/Apache server than to use search > and replace on his VHost file. Brian=E2=80=99s problems relate directly t= o > Permissions and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has > said: > " *I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna be > an issue when apache2.conf list share folder and everything else.*=E2=80= =9D, I > guess to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23 operational Ubuntu > 18.04 servers really doesn=E2=80=99t make much sense. > > So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would have been 100% > operational as soon as all your files had been uploaded to the > /var/www/html directory and had their ownership and preferences checked, > and had simply changed the root locations in your vhost configuration fil= e > simply with a search and replace with your text editor. If you listened t= o > the FREE advice that you were given or you could have even asked me to do > it you would have had a fully functional server many days ago. > > Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that you > have made about me. > > Kind regards > > Stuart Tremain > Pharoah Lane Software > AUSTRALIA > webdna@plsoftware.com.au > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is > sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s --=20 Brian Harrington Auto Glass Xpress 2655 Millersport Hwy. Suite 1063 Getzville, NY 14068 (716) 861-2029 www.Auto-Glass-Xpress.com --0000000000009baee20593ca58b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW= CAN U PLEASE GET MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY I= TSELF... IT WAS FINE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL = WITH THE GODADDY DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT.= ... THEY HELPED ME HAND EDIT ALL 117 DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORD= S THEN ENTERING MY HOME IP AS WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL
FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE ARE THE ONLY 2 DO= MAINS POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ON NEW = DROPLET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS WAS NOT ABLE TO = LOGIN VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK Y= OU U R AWESOME!

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain <webdna@plsoftware.com.au> w= rote:
I have really leaned another one of this li= fe's lessons today.

As any member of this list will = may or may not know I have been an active member of this list for 20+ years= ..

During this time I have learned so much about th= e use of WebDNA from people such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others t= hat have since moved on.

I have always tried hard = to return the favour and as such at times have gone far and beyond the task= of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back to the community from which m= y skills have grown. This I believe is the reason why I have been contracte= d by WebDNA users from around the world.

I have se= en many users over the years with configuration problems, in particular the= last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wrote the instruc= tions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fresh installation of U= buntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image of the same availab= le to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that WebDNA would become a= quick easy solution for members of this list to implement.

<= /div>
I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of wh= om have taken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that a= nyone could use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud ser= vers as each cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their = hosting configuration. The instructions that I publish will work if you fol= low the steps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 installation.
And then along came Brian Harrington.=C2=A0

I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done f= or Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to a= ll members of this list.

Brian was unable to log i= nto the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I offered to meet him on Skyp= e to help him get past his hurdle - less than a minute later I had connecte= d to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, Brian had some confusion as = to how that was achieved, and had not received the image that I had shared = with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easier and so that he didn=E2= =80=99t have to go backwards I simply completed the installation from the i= nstructions=C2=A0that I had published.

Less than 2= 0 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 18.04 server comp= lete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was only requiring a= license number.

As you will know, if you have rea= d the published instructions, Webmin is also installed on the Droplet.

What happened next is purely comical, if I published t= he emails that I received and you read the warnings that I provided, plus t= he repeated advice that I gave, =C2=A0you would see exactly where Brian=E2= =80=99s problems are.

From here all Brian needed t= o do was upload his websites to /var/www/html and set up his Virtual hosts = - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional with all the standard file exten= sions that are installed with the WebDNA installer.

As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other on = 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a worki= ng reference.

However Brian had other plans, he wa= nted to create a new directory /Library/Websites to be the root directory o= f his webserver, remember this is the same person that has had no experienc= e with a Linux server, he has had experience with a Mac server so I believe= d that he had a good sense of being able to manage a Linux Server. Brian di= dn=E2=80=99t want to use the installed Webmin, he wanted to do all Apache c= onfiguration by uploading files with FTP however he didn=E2=80=99t have a F= TP client.

Brian, you may remember the Skype messa= ge that I sent you expressing my concern that if you work outside the stand= ard installation you would break it.

For the rest = of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, provide advice. = All the time doing my own work that Brian=E2=80=99s emails were interruptin= g. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to answer him i= mmediately due to the 10 hour time difference.

The= n on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from Brian= - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for him too, = repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that in 19 = minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend.

S= o it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this mor= ning after have a =E2=80=98family=E2=80=99 day yesterday to see the usually= quiet WebDNA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his in= stallation.

What does surprise me, and leads me to= writing this email are comments pointed to myself by Brian such as:
<= div>"TalkList members say they wil= l help... then they are GONE and suddenly don't has access to email or = skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting you up to fail...!!!=E2=80=9D

Brian had a very large VHost file that he moved from his Mac server to th= e Linux environment without any alterations. He believes that it was easier= to change the configuration of the Linux/Apache server than to use search = and replace on his VHost file. Brian=E2=80=99s problems relate directly to = Permissions and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has sa= id:=C2=A0
"=C2=A0I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna = be an issue when apache2.conf list share folder and everything else.=E2= =80=9D, I guess to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23=C2=A0operat= ional Ubuntu 18.04 servers really doesn=E2=80=99t make much sense.

So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would have been 100% opera= tional as soon as all your files had been uploaded to the /var/www/html=C2= =A0directory and had their ownership and preferences checked, and had=C2=A0= simply changed the root=C2=A0locations in your=C2=A0vhost configuration fil= e simply with a search and replace with your text editor. If you listened t= o the FREE advice that you were given or you could have even asked me to do= it you would have had a fully functional server many days ago.

Now I would like to see= a retraction of the ill placed comments that you have made about me.
=
=C2=A0
Kind regards
<= div>
Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA







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Brian Harrington
Auto Glass Xpress
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Getzville, NY 14068
(716) 86= 1-2029
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2469 --0000000000009baee20593ca58b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW CAN U PLEASE GET MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY ITSELF... IT WAS FINE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL WITH THE GODADDY DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT... THEY HELPED ME HAND EDIT ALL 117 DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORDS THEN ENTERING MY HOME IP AS WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE ARE THE ONLY 2 DOMAINS POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ON NEW DROPLET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS WAS NOT ABLE TO LOGIN VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK YOU U R AWESOME! On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain wrote: > I have really leaned another one of this life's lessons today. > > As any member of this list will may or may not know I have been an active > member of this list for 20+ years. > > During this time I have learned so much about the use of WebDNA from > people such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others that have since move= d > on. > > I have always tried hard to return the favour and as such at times have > gone far and beyond the task of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back > to the community from which my skills have grown. This I believe is the > reason why I have been contracted by WebDNA users from around the world. > > I have seen many users over the years with configuration problems, in > particular the last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I > wrote the instructions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fres= h > installation of Ubuntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image = of > the same available to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that > WebDNA would become a quick easy solution for members of this list to > implement. > > I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of whom have > taken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that anyone > could use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud servers > as each cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their > hosting configuration. The instructions that I publish will work if you > follow the steps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 installation. > > And then along came Brian Harrington. > > I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done for > Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to al= l > members of this list. > > Brian was unable to log into the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I > offered to meet him on Skype to help him get past his hurdle - less than = a > minute later I had connected to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, > Brian had some confusion as to how that was achieved, and had not receive= d > the image that I had shared with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things > easier and so that he didn=E2=80=99t have to go backwards I simply comple= ted the > installation from the instructions that I had published. > > Less than 20 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 18.0= 4 > server complete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was onl= y > requiring a license number. > > As you will know, if you have read the published instructions, Webmin is > also installed on the Droplet. > > What happened next is purely comical, if I published the emails that I > received and you read the warnings that I provided, plus the repeated > advice that I gave, you would see exactly where Brian=E2=80=99s problems= are. > > From here all Brian needed to do was upload his websites to /var/www/html > and set up his Virtual hosts - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional > with all the standard file extensions that are installed with the WebDNA > installer. > > As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other on > 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a > working reference. > > However Brian had other plans, he wanted to create a new directory > /Library/Websites to be the root directory of his webserver, remember thi= s > is the same person that has had no experience with a Linux server, he has > had experience with a Mac server so I believed that he had a good sense o= f > being able to manage a Linux Server. Brian didn=E2=80=99t want to use the= installed > Webmin, he wanted to do all Apache configuration by uploading files with > FTP however he didn=E2=80=99t have a FTP client. > > Brian, you may remember the Skype message that I sent you expressing my > concern that if you work outside the standard installation you would brea= k > it. > > For the rest of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, > provide advice. All the time doing my own work that Brian=E2=80=99s email= s were > interrupting. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to > answer him immediately due to the 10 hour time difference. > > Then on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from > Brian - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for hi= m > too, repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that > in 19 minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend. > > So it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this > morning after have a =E2=80=98family=E2=80=99 day yesterday to see the us= ually quiet WebDNA > list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his installation. > > What does surprise me, and leads me to writing this email are comments > pointed to myself by Brian such as: > "*TalkList members say they will help... then they are GONE and suddenly > don't has access to email or skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setti= ng > you up to fail...!!!*=E2=80=9D > > Brian had a very large VHost file that he moved from his Mac server to th= e > Linux environment without any alterations. He believes that it was easier > to change the configuration of the Linux/Apache server than to use search > and replace on his VHost file. Brian=E2=80=99s problems relate directly t= o > Permissions and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has > said: > " *I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna be > an issue when apache2.conf list share folder and everything else.*=E2=80= =9D, I > guess to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23 operational Ubuntu > 18.04 servers really doesn=E2=80=99t make much sense. > > So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would have been 100% > operational as soon as all your files had been uploaded to the > /var/www/html directory and had their ownership and preferences checked, > and had simply changed the root locations in your vhost configuration fil= e > simply with a search and replace with your text editor. If you listened t= o > the FREE advice that you were given or you could have even asked me to do > it you would have had a fully functional server many days ago. > > Now I would like to see a retraction of the ill placed comments that you > have made about me. > > Kind regards > > Stuart Tremain > Pharoah Lane Software > AUSTRALIA > webdna@plsoftware.com.au > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- This message is > sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list talk@webdna.us > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: talk-leave@webdna.us archives: > http://www.webdna.us/page.dna?numero=3D55 Bug Reporting: support@webdna.u= s --=20 Brian Harrington Auto Glass Xpress 2655 Millersport Hwy. Suite 1063 Getzville, NY 14068 (716) 861-2029 www.Auto-Glass-Xpress.com --0000000000009baee20593ca58b9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
THANK YOU THANK YOU STUART FOR ALL YOUR TIME AND HELP! NOW= CAN U PLEASE GET MY SERVER BACK UP IT KEEPS CREATING NEW PROBLEMS ALL BY I= TSELF... IT WAS FINE AND WAS SWITCHING OVER ALL MY DOMAINS AND HAD TO DEAL = WITH THE GODADDY DISASTER APPENDING MY TEMPLATE RATHER THAN OVERWRITING IT.= ... THEY HELPED ME HAND EDIT ALL 117 DOMAINS FIRST DELETING ALL THE A RECORD= S THEN ENTERING MY HOME IP AS WE HAVE OUR LITTLE TIFF... LOL
FOELEASEWNY.COM. 4LEASE.LIVE ARE THE ONLY 2 DO= MAINS POINTING TO DIGITAL OCEAN... BTW I FOLLOWED YOUR INSTRUCTIONS ON NEW = DROPLET LAST NIGHT (THANK YOU THANK YOU) AND AFTER 2 HOURS WAS NOT ABLE TO = LOGIN VIA TERMINAL BUT GOT IN RIGHT NOW BUT GOTTA GO TO WORK... AND THANK Y= OU U R AWESOME!

On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 7:58 PM Stuart Tremain <webdna@plsoftware.com.au> w= rote:
I have really leaned another one of this li= fe's lessons today.

As any member of this list will = may or may not know I have been an active member of this list for 20+ years= ..

During this time I have learned so much about th= e use of WebDNA from people such as Ken Grome, Donovan Brooke, and others t= hat have since moved on.

I have always tried hard = to return the favour and as such at times have gone far and beyond the task= of offering help. I have enjoyed giving back to the community from which m= y skills have grown. This I believe is the reason why I have been contracte= d by WebDNA users from around the world.

I have se= en many users over the years with configuration problems, in particular the= last few weeks with Ubuntu 18.04, hence the reason why I wrote the instruc= tions a week or so ago on how to set up WebDNA on a fresh installation of U= buntu 18.04 - I even went as far as to provide an image of the same availab= le to anyone that would like it, all in the hope that WebDNA would become a= quick easy solution for members of this list to implement.

<= /div>
I had a number of people request a copy of this image, none of wh= om have taken up the offer. One user requested that I build an image that a= nyone could use on any platform. However this is not possible for cloud ser= vers as each cloud provider has their own flavour of Ubuntu tuned to their = hosting configuration. The instructions that I publish will work if you fol= low the steps on any host and/or new Ubuntu 18.0 installation.
And then along came Brian Harrington.=C2=A0

I must preface this with the fact that everything that i have done f= or Brian was at no charge, purely a gesture of good will that I extend to a= ll members of this list.

Brian was unable to log i= nto the Ubuntu 18.04 Droplet that he created. I offered to meet him on Skyp= e to help him get past his hurdle - less than a minute later I had connecte= d to the Droplet (a virtual server) using ssh, Brian had some confusion as = to how that was achieved, and had not received the image that I had shared = with him from DigitalOcean. So to make things easier and so that he didn=E2= =80=99t have to go backwards I simply completed the installation from the i= nstructions=C2=A0that I had published.

Less than 2= 0 minutes later Brian was the owner of a shiny new Ubuntu 18.04 server comp= lete with a working installation of WebDNA server that was only requiring a= license number.

As you will know, if you have rea= d the published instructions, Webmin is also installed on the Droplet.

What happened next is purely comical, if I published t= he emails that I received and you read the warnings that I provided, plus t= he repeated advice that I gave, =C2=A0you would see exactly where Brian=E2= =80=99s problems are.

From here all Brian needed t= o do was upload his websites to /var/www/html and set up his Virtual hosts = - at this stage WebDNA was 100% functional with all the standard file exten= sions that are installed with the WebDNA installer.

As an additional task I set up two Virtual Hosts, one on 80 the other on = 443 with the ssl certificate that he supplied so that he could have a worki= ng reference.

However Brian had other plans, he wa= nted to create a new directory /Library/Websites to be the root directory o= f his webserver, remember this is the same person that has had no experienc= e with a Linux server, he has had experience with a Mac server so I believe= d that he had a good sense of being able to manage a Linux Server. Brian di= dn=E2=80=99t want to use the installed Webmin, he wanted to do all Apache c= onfiguration by uploading files with FTP however he didn=E2=80=99t have a F= TP client.

Brian, you may remember the Skype messa= ge that I sent you expressing my concern that if you work outside the stand= ard installation you would break it.

For the rest = of the week I continued to help him, answer his questions, provide advice. = All the time doing my own work that Brian=E2=80=99s emails were interruptin= g. As I live in Sydney there were times that I was not able to answer him i= mmediately due to the 10 hour time difference.

The= n on Friday afternoon (Sydney time) I received yet another email from Brian= - he had locked himself out of his server, yes, I fixed this for him too, = repaired his non-root user with sudo privileges and advised him that in 19 = minutes time I would be leaving for the weekend.

S= o it is now Sunday morning in Sydney, I have turned on my computer this mor= ning after have a =E2=80=98family=E2=80=99 day yesterday to see the usually= quiet WebDNA list dominated by Brian continuing to have issues with his in= stallation.

What does surprise me, and leads me to= writing this email are comments pointed to myself by Brian such as:
<= div>"TalkList members say they wil= l help... then they are GONE and suddenly don't has access to email or = skype???!!! Nothing worse than someone setting you up to fail...!!!=E2=80=9D

Brian had a very large VHost file that he moved from his Mac server to th= e Linux environment without any alterations. He believes that it was easier= to change the configuration of the Linux/Apache server than to use search = and replace on his VHost file. Brian=E2=80=99s problems relate directly to = Permissions and the relocation of his server root. I note that Brian has sa= id:=C2=A0
"=C2=A0I have no idea why Stuart thinks /Library/Webserver files are gonna = be an issue when apache2.conf list share folder and everything else.=E2= =80=9D, I guess to Brian taking advice from someone that has 23=C2=A0operat= ional Ubuntu 18.04 servers really doesn=E2=80=99t make much sense.

So Brian, if you had followed my advice, you would have been 100% opera= tional as soon as all your files had been uploaded to the /var/www/html=C2= =A0directory and had their ownership and preferences checked, and had=C2=A0= simply changed the root=C2=A0locations in your=C2=A0vhost configuration fil= e simply with a search and replace with your text editor. If you listened t= o the FREE advice that you were given or you could have even asked me to do= it you would have had a fully functional server many days ago.

Now I would like to see= a retraction of the ill placed comments that you have made about me.
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Kind regards
<= div>
Stuart Tremain
Pharoah Lane Software
AUSTRALIA







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