Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating

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2003


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texte = I can certainly see SMSI's side on this issue and yet it does seem unfair that I should have to pay for virtual machine names on one box forwww.mydomain.com and secure.mydomain.comI think a reasonable compromise would be to sell the domain packs in sets of 5 licenses, with the first 5 licenses figured in, with the cost being $100 for a 5 license pack, and maybe a sliding scale discount for large volumes, so that 100 licenses might be $900 for instance and so on.That way, a reasonable set of machine names in a domain are covered, and we don't feel like we're being nickel and dimed to death.*Marketing note to SMSI: People hate feeling like they're being nickel and dimed to death... On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 10:17 PM, Clement Ross wrote:> Yup, per sub-domain does not make sense. > > For each and every client we usually have: > > domain.com > www.domain.com > secure.domain.com > and sometimes store.domain.com > > All pointing to the save directory. > > It should be like when we register the domain name, the client pays > once for > domain.com but does not pay anything for www.domain.com. > > If you do it this way, you will obviously have some people that will > abuse > the license by doing something like that: client1.isp.com, > store.client.isp.com. So they wont have to pay any additional 50$ but i > think this would be a very small minority. > > Clem. > > Donovan wrote: >> >> Phillip Bonesteele wrote: >> [snip] >> >> Philip, >> Here is the thing I'm most frustrated with. The non-distinction >> between >> hosts (sub-domains) and domains. I understand that SM is trying to >> offer >> a cheaper entry point. I think this is a good idea. However, please >> consider the >> following; please allow a single license to include sub-domains. >> >> Hosts (sub-domains) have always been a feature that one has complete >> ownership over once >> they buy a domain. It is frustrating to know that if one owns: >> surfing.com that >> one will have to pay extra for creating: >> >> www.surfing.com >> dev.surfing.com >> secure.surfing.com >> >> I might be sold on a per domain system but I will not on a per >> sub-domain system. >> Please reconsider adding allowing hosts. >> >> Sincerely, >> Donovan >> >> -- >> -Donovan Brooke >> -Administrator of IT / >> -Assc. Art Director >> -Creative Services >> -Epsen Hillmer Graphics >> >> -402.342.1169 X297 >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > --Will Starck NovaDerm Skincare Science http://www.novaderm.com wjs@novaderm.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
  1. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Clint Davis 2003)
  2. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Jim Lanford 2003)
  3. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Paul Willis 2003)
  4. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (WJ Starck 2003)
  5. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Clement Ross 2003)
  6. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Donovan 2003)
  7. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Kimberly D. Walls 2003)
  8. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (John Peacock 2003)
  9. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Donovan 2003)
  10. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  11. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Paul Uttermohlen 2003)
  12. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Donovan 2003)
  13. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Alex McCombie 2003)
  14. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Nitai @ ComputerOil 2003)
  15. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Donovan 2003)
  16. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Brian Fries 2003)
  17. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Bob Minor 2003)
  18. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Jesse Williams-Proudman 2003)
  19. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
  20. Re: Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (WJ Starck 2003)
  21. Was 5.0 Pricing, now Sandbox versus Website and ruminating (Phillip Bonesteele 2003)
I can certainly see SMSI's side on this issue and yet it does seem unfair that I should have to pay for virtual machine names on one box forwww.mydomain.com and secure.mydomain.comI think a reasonable compromise would be to sell the domain packs in sets of 5 licenses, with the first 5 licenses figured in, with the cost being $100 for a 5 license pack, and maybe a sliding scale discount for large volumes, so that 100 licenses might be $900 for instance and so on.That way, a reasonable set of machine names in a domain are covered, and we don't feel like we're being nickel and dimed to death.*Marketing note to SMSI: People hate feeling like they're being nickel and dimed to death... On Thursday, February 27, 2003, at 10:17 PM, Clement Ross wrote:> Yup, per sub-domain does not make sense. > > For each and every client we usually have: > > domain.com > www.domain.com > secure.domain.com > and sometimes store.domain.com > > All pointing to the save directory. > > It should be like when we register the domain name, the client pays > once for > domain.com but does not pay anything for www.domain.com. > > If you do it this way, you will obviously have some people that will > abuse > the license by doing something like that: client1.isp.com, > store.client.isp.com. So they wont have to pay any additional 50$ but i > think this would be a very small minority. > > Clem. > > Donovan wrote: >> >> Phillip Bonesteele wrote: >> [snip] >> >> Philip, >> Here is the thing I'm most frustrated with. The non-distinction >> between >> hosts (sub-domains) and domains. I understand that SM is trying to >> offer >> a cheaper entry point. I think this is a good idea. However, please >> consider the >> following; please allow a single license to include sub-domains. >> >> Hosts (sub-domains) have always been a feature that one has complete >> ownership over once >> they buy a domain. It is frustrating to know that if one owns: >> surfing.com that >> one will have to pay extra for creating: >> >> www.surfing.com >> dev.surfing.com >> secure.surfing.com >> >> I might be sold on a per domain system but I will not on a per >> sub-domain system. >> Please reconsider adding allowing hosts. >> >> Sincerely, >> Donovan >> >> -- >> -Donovan Brooke >> -Administrator of IT / >> -Assc. Art Director >> -Creative Services >> -Epsen Hillmer Graphics >> >> -402.342.1169 X297 >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------- > This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > > Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ > > --Will Starck NovaDerm Skincare Science http://www.novaderm.com wjs@novaderm.com ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ WJ Starck

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