Re: 5.0 Pricing

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texte = IMHO its too soon to make ANY assumptions and to do so is bad business practice.So rewrite the code and screw your investment and then see how it is, cmon they invested already? If I had done it in perl ages ago, I wouldn't be shelling out another $1500 STFD, and I would also be working in a developer rich environment. How ridiculous is this? Are you even a real developer, or are you part owner in SMSI? I have always been suspicious!Strictly speaking for myself and IMHO I plan on evaluating the product as it becomes more tangible and leave the lemming work to the lemmings. I am always evaluating new solutions to old problems. I prefer to remind SMSI and other vendors that there is always someone with a bigger better solution and they had best be competitive. Maybe your in government work and so someone else is paying the billBTW they also don't have to make it all off the backs of the other customers.BTW I don't think $1000.00 STFD is not nothingAABTW I am also looking at buying the Enterprise Edition with all its features but I am not sure its worth the $3000.00 STFD I remember buying early versions of webcat that didn't even do what they were suppose to do WebMerchant.AOMBTW Ever played poker?DDRNF.IMNSHOYMBATOn Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:39 PM, John Peacock wrote:> Since the first time that SMSI announced the preliminary upgrade > pricing, they have even created a new unlimited Commerce license, for > those people who don't need the features of the Enterprise Edition. > But that's not good enough for you! As an existing customer, you > want, nay demand, to be given the upgrade to 5.0 for little or > nothing! SMSI has to pay for the development of the new features. > They cannot do it strictly on the basis of new customers. > > Get real! If you feel that you simply _have_ to have an unlimited > license, and cannot afford to spend $1495 for an upgrade of your core > platform, your business model needs some serious revising. SMSI has > changed the licensing model, for the better, IMNSHO, and if you don't > like it, don't upgrade. Go write all of the e-commerce code yourself > in PHP or Perl and discover exactly how much work it will involve. > > Speaking strictly for myself and my company, we will be purchasing the > Enterprise Edition upgrade (since it includes the Intranet features), > which even at $2995 is still a bargain to my mind. If I was a new > customer, I'd buy 4.5 now just so I could get a better deal on 5.0 > when it comes out. > > Robert Minor ____________________________________ http://www.cybermill.com Development, Hosting, Colocation on a multihomed DS3.When my brother told me he had found Jesus, I thought Yahoo were rich but it turned out to be something different. ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Associated Messages, from the most recent to the oldest:

    
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IMHO its too soon to make ANY assumptions and to do so is bad business practice.So rewrite the code and screw your investment and then see how it is, cmon they invested already? If I had done it in perl ages ago, I wouldn't be shelling out another $1500 STFD, and I would also be working in a developer rich environment. How ridiculous is this? Are you even a real developer, or are you part owner in SMSI? I have always been suspicious!Strictly speaking for myself and IMHO I plan on evaluating the product as it becomes more tangible and leave the lemming work to the lemmings. I am always evaluating new solutions to old problems. I prefer to remind SMSI and other vendors that there is always someone with a bigger better solution and they had best be competitive. Maybe your in government work and so someone else is paying the billBTW they also don't have to make it all off the backs of the other customers.BTW I don't think $1000.00 STFD is not nothingAABTW I am also looking at buying the Enterprise Edition with all its features but I am not sure its worth the $3000.00 STFD I remember buying early versions of webcat that didn't even do what they were suppose to do WebMerchant.AOMBTW Ever played poker?DDRNF.IMNSHOYMBATOn Tuesday, February 25, 2003, at 09:39 PM, John Peacock wrote:> Since the first time that SMSI announced the preliminary upgrade > pricing, they have even created a new unlimited Commerce license, for > those people who don't need the features of the Enterprise Edition. > But that's not good enough for you! As an existing customer, you > want, nay demand, to be given the upgrade to 5.0 for little or > nothing! SMSI has to pay for the development of the new features. > They cannot do it strictly on the basis of new customers. > > Get real! If you feel that you simply _have_ to have an unlimited > license, and cannot afford to spend $1495 for an upgrade of your core > platform, your business model needs some serious revising. SMSI has > changed the licensing model, for the better, IMNSHO, and if you don't > like it, don't upgrade. Go write all of the e-commerce code yourself > in PHP or Perl and discover exactly how much work it will involve. > > Speaking strictly for myself and my company, we will be purchasing the > Enterprise Edition upgrade (since it includes the Intranet features), > which even at $2995 is still a bargain to my mind. If I was a new > customer, I'd buy 4.5 now just so I could get a better deal on 5.0 > when it comes out. > > Robert Minor ____________________________________ http://www.cybermill.com Development, Hosting, Colocation on a multihomed DS3.When my brother told me he had found Jesus, I thought Yahoo were rich but it turned out to be something different. ------------------------------------------------------------- This message is sent to you because you are subscribed to the mailing list . To unsubscribe, E-mail to: To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to Web Archive of this list is at: http://webdna.smithmicro.com/ Bob Minor

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